The prepositional phrase of place led by zai always goes before the Main Verb of the sentence as a rule of thumb. If you have used auxiliary or modal verbs before the main verb, then the zai-phrase is inserted between the two, i.e. Wo xiang zai jia kan dianshi - I'd like to [or to be thinking of doing] watch the tele at home.
Guo as a suffix puts emphasis on the experience one has had; hence it could be understood as to have done sth or to have been to spl etc. The negative form is mei you verb guo or mei verb guo. The negative-affirmative is you mei you verb guo ...?
Best wishes,
Cc
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When we say place before verb, we mean 'reflect before you act'. where you are giong to, how you get there, who are you going with, when etc etc all have to be dealt with before the verb. hence 'wo zai beijing shangxue'. The other sentence is about 'guo'. the pattern is verb+guo+whatever (which means you have had the experience of doing sth) so it doesn't matter if it is 'ni chi guo kaoya ma?' or 'ni qu guo beijing ma?'
Hope it helps. not sure if i have explained myself.
gao fei
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:39:38 +0100
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> Subject: how would you explain this please?
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> recently I've been teaching 2 phrases: 你去(verb)过北京(place)吗? and
> 我在北京(place)上学(verb) and I explanied to the students that generally
> PLACE is before VERB. How would you explain the other one please? I'd
> appreciate if I could hear your opinions.
> Thank you very much for your support.
> Cheng-han
---- Cheng-Han Wu <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> recently I've been teaching 2 phrases: 你去(verb)过北京(place)吗? and
> 我在北京(place)上学(verb) and I explanied to the students that generally
> PLACE is before VERB. How would you explain the other one please? I'd
> appreciate if I could hear your opinions.
> Thank you very much for your support.
> Cheng-han
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