Good Morning! 

Just back from Amsterdam and catching up on the topics....attached is my 
consent form that I use. This may help some? 

Regards, 


Sue 

Dr Mark O'Connor writes: 

> Interesting exchange of views from James and Alison - thanks - I agree and
> disagree with bits from both of them so thought I would add my £0.02p worth 
> 
> I think there are times where a signature is helpful to indicate advice has
> been given as a proxy marker that informed consent has been received and
> understood. Mostly these would be surgical procedures in hospital where the
> protection of the signature is for the surgeon in case of later litigation
> ie the risk of a negative outcome for the doctor is high 
> 
> I do not think what we doo in Occ Helath is comparable so when I talked in
> my first post that consent is everything I meant that I seek verbal consent
> from employees about sending my report back to management as the report
> invariably contains some medical information in order to provide contect
> more than anything. Of course most HR departments already have some idea of
> the medical issues as the employee often has declared them and they are
> present on Med3s etc... - Consequently I use the phrase "As you are aware a
> lot" 
> 
> It is rare that an employee objects to my report and where they do this is
> often helpful to know as it allows a further exploration of issues and
> resolution of such. I have only had one employee who refused any clinical
> content to go back and he was mildly psychotic with paranoid delusions so
> fair nuff it was a short report!! 
> 
> I think the time issue of waiting for written consent to come back would
> also grind to a halt my business and would lose it - Many of my contracts
> have come from the fact that I can offer online appointments with a
> guarenteed same/next day report 
> 
> Likewise I feel verbal consent adequate rather than the employee signing
> something at the end of the consultation to be adequate as my perception of
> risk from an Industrial Tribunal is zero or close to 
> 
> Cheers 
> 
> Mark 
> 
> 
> On 17/09/2007, N. Rostami <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>  Allison, 
>>
>> 
>>
>> Can I please ask what you do if the employee either does not bother to
>> write back to you to give his or her consent to the report you have already
>> prepared? 
>>
>>  Or , they inform you that they are not happy with the content of the
>> report ? For me going back to review a case after many weeks have lapsed
>> would be very problematic as I carry out almost 30 different absence
>> management  cases per week and I have to close cases  swiftly , otherwise re
>> refer to OHP/ third party. 
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------ 
>>
>> *From:* [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On
>> Behalf Of *Rachael Mclachlan
>> *Sent:* 16 September 2007 21:18
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Reports to management 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> Many thanks to you all for all information provided and as always am
>> appreciative of any helpful advice given. 
>>
>> 
>>
>> With regards to employees signing the report, I also cover all bases
>> whereby I ensure that my client fully understands what is being said to
>> management, backed up by a signed report to the appropraite personnel.  That
>> way, there cannot be any dispute about what was or wasn't said.  I am sure I
>> have read somewhere that this practice is actively encouraged....however as
>> my memory is not as good as it once was, I can't exactly remember
>> where...Sorry! 
>>
>> 
>>
>> Anyway, thank you to all who assisted (and debated) with this matter 
>>
>> 
>>
>> Regards 
>>
>> Rachael 
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]*On
>> Behalf Of *Allison Caine
>> *Sent:* 16 September 2007 19:13
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Reports to management 
>>
>> Hi James 
>>
>> Looks like we will agree to disagree on this subject. I am not providing
>> medical information to managers nor am I just writing 'fit for work', the
>> latter not requiring any consent. 
>>
>> Both tribunals I have been involved in required that the individual is
>> fully aware of the outcome of the assessment by OH and that they have given
>> consent for this information to be released to the manager. How can you
>> prove this beyond reasonable doubt if its not in writing? Sending the
>> employee the report after the assessment just increases the time scales, as
>> my other colleagues wait for written confirmation BEFORE they send it to
>> management. 
>>
>> A few of the larger OH providers, as well as most of my OH colleagues,
>> have adopted my form and I am already getting requests from JISCMAIL on and
>> off line for a copy of the form. 
>>
>> Rgds 
>>
>> Allison 
>>
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