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Re: nesting...how deep do we go?

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"Corti, Louise" <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:42:00 +0100

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To everyone who has responded. Thanks! 

It seems like 3 levels is about the maximum.  We are using this
information for our qualitative data exchange model and schema which
will be released for evaluation and testing over the next couple of
months.

Best
Louise

Louise Corti
Associate Director & Head ESDS Qualidata, Outreach & Training
UK Data Archive - a service provider of the Economic and Social Data
Service (ESDS)
University of Essex
Colchester CO4 3SQ UK
Tel: +44 (0) 1206 872145
Email: [log in to unmask]
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-----Original Message-----
From: qual-software [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Helen Marshall
Sent: 23 August 2007 05:00
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Subject: Re: nesting...how deep do we go?
Importance: High

An interesting question Louise. I don't' think I've seen more than three
in any project, and certainly I have not used more than three myself.

I wonder, however, if the over all number of nodes and the structure of
the project  is of more concern than the number of levels? 

I use NVivo, and if I manage to get a treed structure with  material
that is coded for  analytic purposes  rather than simply indexed  by
topic I feel very pleased.   Categories, subcategories and perhaps sub
sub categories create a structure in my head and on  the screen. If I've
got clear trees, and not too many of them, I can display the structure
quite well in the list view of NVivo7.  So if I'm coding I have my data
open on the detail view and at the side I have my trees, with all the
sub categories and sub sub categories visible.  I can drag and drop for
coding.  It feels rather like sorting the laundry into a well organised
wardrobe and the complexity doesn't matter.  If I'm thinking about the
project, I can look at the nodes and work out what I might want to ask
next.  A node structure fits well with drawing models.

But if I have nothing but lots of free nodes, I find myself looking at a
bit of data, creating a new node, then deciding that an existing node
will do, checking the node properties for the definition, and then
fretfully re-creating the new node* I don't have a vision of where I'm
going.  It's as if I didn't have a wardrobe, , so I can't tell where to
put the laundry, and I know that tomorrow morning I won't be able to
find any  clean socks.  I look at the free nodes and can't think what I
can ask about them, or how they might hang together in a model*

Of course I often need that first phase of  free nodes and messy
complexity when coding up from data, but because it's daunting, I try to
limit the number of  free nodes, and where possible to move my free
nodes into orderly trees (building wardrobes I guess).   

The laundry metaphor was coined by Leonie Dawes and Pat Bazeley uses it
in her recent book 'Qualitative Data analysis with NVivo' (Sage 2007)
She  also discusses lumping and splitting very helpfully, pointing out
they are very much a matter of personal preference.  I'd love to know
what other people think about the issue of complexity.  

Hope this helps
Helen Marshall 


Dr Helen Marshall
Senior Associate, Centre for Applied Social Research
Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology
GPO Box 2476V Melbourne 3001
Victoria Australia
ph  61 3 99259073
fax 61 3 9925 3088
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"The best cure for being sad...is to learn something" (T.H White 'The
Once and Future King')







>>> "Corti, Louise" <[log in to unmask]> 22/08/2007 23:06 >>>
Hi all,

I'm looking for an indication of the extent to which the average
researcher creates nested codes. How complex do coding trees usually
get?  How many levels deep do codes typically be nested? Personally, Ive
never gone more than about 3 levels deep as I find it becomes too
complex.

Thanks!
Louise 

Louise Corti
Associate Director & Head ESDS Qualidata, Outreach & Training
UK Data Archive - a service provider of the Economic and Social Data
Service (ESDS)
University of Essex
Colchester CO4 3SQ UK
Tel: +44 (0) 1206 872145
Email: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> 
Web: http://www.data-archive.ac.uk <http://www.data-archive.ac.uk/>  and
www.esds.ac.uk <http://www.esds.ac.uk/> 


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