Whoops, sorry! Wonder why I couldn't find it when I searched?
I would be most interested to see what Don Paterson has to say on the
subject. I'd agree there are indeed differences in the perception of time in
music and poetry, but would have thought the knack was to play them off
against each other.
joanna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Cudmore" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: Bach
> Funnily enough, I'm discussing something along these lines with my nephew
> at
> the moment. He's keen on Romantic poetry, and we were comparing the merits
> of Britten's setting of Tennyson (The splendour falls, in the Serenade for
> Tenor, Horn & Strings) with that of Vaughan Williams (an early work,
> conventional piano & voice). My nephew approves of Vaughan Williams'
> metrical fidelity, while I think the RVW song entirely without character.
> It
> reminded me that Goethe's favourite setting of Erlkonig was not Schubert's
> but... um... somebody else's (somebody quite unmemorable).
>
> Actually Don Paterson has some interesting things to say about the
> difficulties of reconciling poetry and music -- to do with (if I remember
> accurately) differences in the perception of time in the two media.
>
> Ah! I thought to myself, let's search on Beamish song cycle... Lo! It WAS
> Janice Galloway! Pre-Clara, in 1995.
>
> P
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>> Behalf Of Joanna Boulter
>> Sent: 20 August 2007 16:25
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Bach
>>
>> Yes, definitely Sally Beamish was the composer, now that I've heard the
> name
>> I remember. But I don't think Galloway was the poet -- it doesn't seem
>> to
>> ring the right bells, and something else is trying to. Whoever it was,
>> she
>> made an interesting point about its being very hard when writing poems
> which
>> were to be set to music, because the poet has to leave so much
>> imaginative
>> space for the composer to work not only with but in. Quite put me off the
>> thought of being a librettist, that did!
>>
>> joanna
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter Cudmore" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 4:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: Bach
>>
>>
>> > Would that have been Galloway and Sally Beamish, the composer? No, I
> think
>> > that was something else. Hm... a google search on clara song cycle
> brings
>> > up
>> > plenty of Robert Schumann, but 8 pages in I haven't spotted a likely
>> > candidate.
>> >
>> > P
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On
>> >> Behalf Of Joanna Boulter
>> >> Sent: 20 August 2007 15:27
>> >> To: [log in to unmask]
>> >> Subject: Re: Bach
>> >>
>> >> And yes, I know and own the Galloway book. The Schumann/Wieck story
> seems
>> > to
>> >> have sparked quite a few artistic spin-offs. There's a song cycle by
> two
>> >> women, poet and composer, about Clara -- I don't actually know it but
>> > heard
>> >> the two of them talking on the radio about the process of working on
> it.
>> > I
>> >> hope Peter at least knows what I'm talking about, because it's
> irritating
>> >> the hell out of me that I can't remember their names! I'm glad to see
>> > though
>> >> that Clara is at last receiving acknowledgement as a musician, and
> indeed
>> > a
>> >> composer, in her own right rather than just as an adjunct to her
> husband.
>> >>
>> >> joanna
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