Seems slightly barren to segregate politics out of poetry completely
... and seers, so 12th century.
On 8/24/07, kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> "The poet is the seer, but the prose, the film and the radio work are
> more politically aware"
>
> I like this distinction
>
> KS
>
> On 24/08/07, Roger Day <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Thomas's psychodrama played out in that poem has little do with
> > Sitwell's fertive spinning. He might have intended it as a political
> > gesture - after all, he worked for the BBC during the war - but for
> > Thomas, the poetry was for being the seer, the ur-worldly, biblical
> > prohphet so little intentionally political is in the poem. The
> > politics is in the context, the refusal to mourn, get on with life
> > during war. Without the context, it becomes something else.
> >
> > The poet is the seer, but the prose, the film and the radio work are
> > more politically aware; he himself kept the two apart.
> >
> > Roger
> >
> > On 8/24/07, Jon Corelis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > "In that great poem A Refusal to Mourn the Death, by Fire, of a Child
> > > in London, with its dark, magnificent, proud movement, we see Death
> > > in its reality -- as a return to the beginning of things, as a robing,
> > > a sacred investiture in those who have been our friends since the
> > > beginning of Time. Bird, beast, and flower have their part in the
> > > making of mankind. The water drop is holy, the wheat ear a place of
> > > prayer. The 'fathering and all-humbling darkness' itself is a
> > > begetting force. Even grief, even tears, are a begetting. 'The
> > > stations of the breath' are the stations of the Cross."
> > >
> > > -- Edith Sitwell
> > >
> > >
> > > Is the unstated fact that the poem is about a child who died in the
> > > Blitz make this a political poem? Does knowing or not knowing it
> > > change the poem?
> > >
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> > "In peace, sons bury their fathers. In war, fathers bury their sons."
> > Roman Proverb
> >
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