Ah, it seems to be Adolphe Pinard 1844-1934
A.S.
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Is that Pinard, Pindar or Pinnard? I thought pinard was a red wine...
http://www.dreamstime.com/pinnard-&-stethoscope-image2296106
http://www.mortonmedical.co.uk/pinard_stethoscopes.htm
Seem to be available in aluminium or plastic ... Or wood <http://www.micglobal.co.uk/pp/MEDICAL/Stethoscopes/Pinard%20Foetal%20Plastic%20Stethoscope.html>
Adrian
Headingley
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Hi Jette, in Sweden we use stetoscopes of wood about 20 cm long - if they are used. Midwives tend to use doptones more and more. A pity. We used the long ones (50 cm?) at delivery wards when mothers were in the shower or lying in a bath. The doptones were used in the water at the beginning until we realised they were damaged by water.
Beatrice
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Hi Jette,
In the UK a pinnard stethoscope is normally made of plastic, but can be made of metal. I have not seen a wooden stethoscope. However they all have the same shape and have a relatively short length. The stethoscope you use appears quite a bit longer.
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To the ICM -researchmailing list fra Jette Aaroe Clausen (e-mail:
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Greeting everybody out there
I am currently finishing an article about midwifes work with pinards, CTG and the doptone. And this has made me wonder a little about what a stethoscope is, and what midwifes mean when they say they work with Pinards.
I know English midwifes use the word Pinard for the stethoscope they use during childbirth. In Denmark a stethoscope in called "a wooden tube"
(trærør) or wooden stethoscope (træ stetoskop). It is a app. 20 cm long wodden tube. when I have visited English labourward, I have seen midwifes use smaller stethoscopes and called them Pinard. In the literature I can see that the stethoscope got its name from an English doctor Pinard. For a reference see. http://fan.BM.comb/chi/reprint/91/3/F231
I found these pictures on the homemade from radical midwifes.
http://www.radioed.demon.Co.UK/Pindar's.html
And this make me think that the word Pindar now is used for all types of stethoscopes used during labour whether they are of wood, plastic or metal.
Am I right in assuming that the most common used stethoscope in England is of wood and it is short? Where are the stethoscopes of metal and plastic used?
What kind of stethoscopes are used by midwifes in other countries? I once visited a Mennonite midwife in Canada (Mennonite is closely related to the Amish, but less radical, they do drive cars ect), she used a stethoscope that was placed between the women's abdomen, and her forehead and two listening probes where placed in her ears. I wonder if this was just her, or is other midwifes out there using this kind of stethoscopes?
Sparked by the discussion about a list for historians, I wonder if there are anybody out there who knows how short and small stethoscopes came into being and why they became the chosen form? I was once told that Danish midwifes used a long stethoscope for courtesy and for avoiding lice. But I have never seen this in writing and don't remember who told me this many years ago.
In Denmark parents to be, have started to buy Pinards and some also buy doptones and use them at home. have you hear of this and what are your experience with this. Why do parents do this? and do you experience and problems whit this?
Looking forward to hear from you
All the best
Jette
Jette Aaroe Clausen
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