let me remind you Guys, one and all, that we are already doing this
DC-ISO/IEC- ... harmonisation with the accessibility work ....but the
more harmonisation the better, I agree!
Liddy
On 31/08/2007, at 1:37 PM, Mikael Nilsson wrote:
>
> Hi Christian!
>
> It's great to see that SC36 is considering outreach to other
> communities! I believe there are great possibilities in trying to
> harmonize all these things.
>
> Harmonization is my agenda too - as co-chair of the Joint DCMI-IEEE
> LTSC
> Task Force that deals with one aspect of harmonization between IEEE
> LOM
> and Dublin Core, I'd really like to know more about what ideas you
> might
> have and how that might influence/be influenced by/be harmonized with
> the work we are doing within the task force. See
>
> http://dublincore.org/educationwiki/DCMIIEEELTSCTaskforce
>
> Also, it's in my interest as co-chair of the DC Architecture Forum to
> work towards harmonization... this is certainly in the best
> interests of
> DCMI generally.
>
> See also the feedback that members of the DCMI Community submitted to
> SC36:
>
> http://jtc1sc36.org/doc/36N1203.pdf
>
> If you're interested, I can tell you about my own opinions about
> harmonization approaches.... :-)
>
> /Mikael
>
>
>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Stracke, Christian
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. August 2007 08:14
>> An: [log in to unmask]
>> Betreff: AW: Re: DC-Ed and Accessibility: was DC-Education
>> Application
>> Profile: update + feedback requested
>>
>> Dear Diane and all,
>>
>> I'm following the discussion with great interest, especially the
>> proposals for combining specifications and APs!
>>
>> In ISO/IEC JTC1 SC36 we (Conveners of three WGs) have started an
>> initiative to harmonize the standardization projects in SC36
>> (existing
>> standards and those under development). The long-term vision is the
>> harmonization of all existing standards, also outside of SC36.
>>
>> We would really appreciate any contributions and (if interested
>> in) your
>> participation within our harmonization approach and further
>> discussion!
>>
>> Best regards
>> Christian
>>
>>
>> Mit besten Gruessen/
>> With best regards
>>
>> Christian Stracke
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Christian Stracke
>> e-Learning and QM Project Manager
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>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: DCMI Education Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im
>> Auftrag von Diane I. Hillmann
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. August 2007 06:05
>> An: [log in to unmask]
>> Betreff: Fwd: Re: DC-Ed and Accessibility: was DC-Education
>> Application
>> Profile: update + feedback requested
>>
>> Sorry--I neglected to change the "TO:" when replying ... Diane
>>
>> --- begin forwarded text
>>
>>
>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:43:30 +0800
>> To: Liddy Nevile <[log in to unmask]>
>> From: "Diane I. Hillmann" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: DC-Ed and Accessibility: was DC-Education Application
>> Profile: update + feedback requested
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> X-Attachments:
>>
>> Liddy:
>>
>> I certainly agree with Sarah that this work is very interesting and
>> useful, but I don't see the strong connection with the education
>> profile work that would be required for us to consider making
>> recommendations for its use with the DC-Ed AP. The new emphasis on
>> description sets, which we are relying on in our thinking about the
>> modular aspects of the DC-Ed work, makes it possible for us all to
>> consider how that point of view empowers us to explore various kinds
>> of descriptions that can be combined in a description set for the
>> consumption of applications.
>>
>> While I think we all support the idea that accessibility is an
>> important aspect of all kinds of resources, it doesn't seem to me
>> that we advance either the goals of the DC-Ed Community or the DC
>> Accessibility Community by attempting to combine our work at this
>> stage. Rather, I hope that we can fully explore the possibilities of
>> these modular APs and how they might be usefully combined as
>> description sets.
>>
>> Diane
>>
>>> Robyn
>>> the AccessForAll work is all about metadata to describe resources
>>> and services and lots of other things for education and general
>>> contexts. IMS and now ISO have adopted the AccessForAll approach and
>>> DC has adopted it for general situations.
>>> The IMS work was done first and published earlier but is now being
>>> revised. The ISO work followed the work done for IMS and acted as
>>> both an internationalisation and revision exercise and will be
>>> published soon - by ISO JTC1 SC36. At the same time as we did the
>>> IMS and ISO work we have done the DC version work - so all three are
>>> compatible. The DC work is not a DC recommendation but is ready for
>>> use.
>>> So, whatever scheme of metadata you are working in - you can adopt
>>> the AccessForAll approach.
>>>
>>> I suggest you look at the DC Accessibility site where I have
>>> explained all these bits in detail and esp at the current docs that
>>> are on the DC Accessibility wiki to see how DC does AccessForAll.
>>>
>>> See http://dublincore.org/groups/access
>>> and
>>> http://dublincore.org/accessibilitywiki
>>>
>>> I hope this helps...
>>>
>>> Liddy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29/08/2007, at 12:52 PM, Robyn White wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Liddy
>>>>
>>>> I need to read some more around this, though not because I am
>>>> unconvinced of
>>>> the need!
>>>>
>>>> As a slight aside to the current discussion I note that you
>>>> mentioned the
>>>> 'ISO version'.
>>>>
>>>> I recently provided feedback on the 'ISO/IEC CD 19788-2 - ITLET
>>>> - Metadata
>>>> for learning resources - Part 2: Core elements' document and one
>>>> of the
>>>> things I mentioned was that there is no element that allows for
>>>> information
>>>> about the accessibility of a resource, a core consideration for
>>>> learners
>>>> with diverse needs or disabilities.
>>>>
>>>> Did I miss something in this document or are you referring to
>>>> something
>>>> else?
>>>>
>>>> robyn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: DCMI Education Community [mailto:DC-
>>>> [log in to unmask]] On
>>>> Behalf Of Liddy Nevile
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2007 2:11 p.m.
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: DC-Ed and Accessibility: was DC-Education
>>>> Application Profile:
>>>> update + feedback requested
>>>>
>>>> Sarah
>>>> we are sitting in the same room and I have seen you and heard
>>>> you but
>>>> no, we have not yet caught up!
>>>>
>>>> The metadata for accessibility is new but it is available in
>>>> both the
>>>> IMS and the DC world and it is currently being implemented in many
>>>> major locations - so you have not seen a lot of it yet but it is
>>>> coming!
>>>>
>>>> The DC version is considered at length on the DC accessibility
>>>> pages
>>>> so that is where you find what I am talking about. The IMS (LOM)
>>>> version is available from IMS, and there is the ISO version
>>>> which is
>>>> about to be published by ISO (BTW, BSI is deeply involved in
>>>> this for
>>>> the UK, eg).
>>>>
>>>> I hope we can meet and talk in the next couple of days!
>>>>
>>>> Liddy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29/08/2007, at 11:01 AM, Sarah Currier wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Robyn, et al,
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks for your comments and feedback. It's all extremely
>>>>> useful and doesn't need much discussion (from me anyway- everyone
>>>>> else go ahead!); the only bit I think I need to respond to right
>>>>> now is the comment on accessibility, and I'd like to start a new
>>>>> thread on this. Thanks also to Liddy for her previous email re
>>>>> accessibility: I had meant to catch up with Liddy in person re
>>>>> this
>>>>> here at DC-2007 in Singapore but haven't managed it yet, and in
>>>>> any
>>>>> case, it is important to also discuss on the list. We are also
>>>>> having our DC-Education AP meeting this afternoon, where I will
>>>>> raise the issue. Anyway:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Accessibility - The application profile should provide for
>>>>>> information about the accessibility (or adaptability) of a
>>>>>> resource for those with special requirements in educational
>>>>>> settings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Back when I first started working on the DC-Ed AP last year, Liddy
>>>>> emailed us re this issue and I responded that I didn't know of any
>>>>> education-specific properties of resources related to
>>>>> accessibility, and asked to be pointed in the right direction of
>>>>> any work in this area. I'm still not sure what "special
>>>>> requirements in educational settings" might be, over and above
>>>>> accessibility requirements for using any type of resource. I am
>>>>> *very* keen to get some clarity on this as it is extremely
>>>>> important, but it is not my area of expertise, so would be
>>>>> grateful
>>>>> if someone out there could point the DC-Ed community in the right
>>>>> direction, or advise us directly.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we are to use elements already in existence this could be
>>>>>> addressed in IEEE LOM 9.1 Classification Purpose, although the
>>>>>> existing value space of "accessibility restrictions" may not be
>>>>>> the best way to think of it. Discussion with Liddy and the
>>>>>> accessibility group will add much clarity to this thinking!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I agree, this is likely not an ideal solution, and hasn't
>>>>> been
>>>>> used much in the LOM community as far as I know. The LOM
>>>>> Classification elements do not sit easily with DC anyway- not sure
>>>>> how the LOM/DC Task Force are approaching this one, hopefully will
>>>>> find out later today. We may need to propose a new element but I
>>>>> am hoping, with all the accessibility work that's been going on
>>>>> around the world for years, that we can reuse someone else's, i.e.
>>>>> one from another metadata schema.
>>>>>
>>>>> I emphasise again, to be within scope for the DC-Ed AP, any
>>>>> accessibility property would need to be specific to the
>>>>> educational
>>>>> nature, attributes or context of a resource.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes to all from Singapore,
>>>>> Sarah
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Sarah Currier Co-Moderator, Dublin Core Education COmmunity
>>>>> Product Manager, Intrallect Ltd. http://www.intrallect.com 2nd
>>>>> Floor, Regent House Blackness Road Linlithgow EH49 7HU United
>>>>> Kingdom Tel: +44 870 234 3933 Mob: +44 (0)7980855801 E-mail:
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>>
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