ok forget it i get it duh

ok ok

i got lost around that I as always

On Aug 27, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Jane Holland' wrote:

> I have refrained from commenting so far on this furore. But I do  
> find it odd that no one but Mairead has chosen to comment on the  
> inappropriateness of some of the insults aimed in my direction  
> recently, so perhaps it's time I explained what has actually  
> happened here.
>
> Geraldine sent an 'open' message of serious unpleasantness to me  
> via BIP after I had commented in another place on the lack of  
> poetry-related emails on this list, citing her recent communiques  
> on teen gun crime. There was no quotation from her emails or other  
> specific details that might have contravened any copyright, it was  
> merely a general comment that I made about BIP on an entirely  
> separate poetry forum.
>
> I can't see how her action could be defended as an appropriate or  
> proportionate response to what was essentially a mild passing  
> comment. Nor do I understand why some others here, Desmond in  
> particular, whose comments about me were vile and plainly  
> libellous, have seen fit to attack me as well. And as I understand  
> it, Geraldine has not been suspended but has chosen not to continue  
> using the list. But perhaps Mairead could clear that point up?
>
> Several of the more unpleasant comments made by Geraldine in her  
> open 'Message to Jane Holland' email were entirely untrue and based  
> on errors she had made. She has accepted that now in a personal  
> email to me, following private correspondence between us, though  
> she has not seen fit to apologise for those insinuations nor has  
> any retraction appeared on this list. I think it should be made  
> public that she had some of her facts plain wrong, in particular  
> the idea that she was 'not allowed' to join the forum in order to  
> respond to my comment there - which would have been the appropriate  
> place for her message.
>
> I have since invited Geraldine to join the forum several times, and  
> even explained in detail how the registration system works, but so  
> far she has not chosen to take me up on the offer. Just to clarify,  
> I am perfectly within my rights to discuss the existence of this  
> list outside the list and to comment on its workings in a  
> journalistic fashion. No quotation or reference to specific content  
> took place in my forum post. Nothing 'unfair' to Geraldine has  
> occurred here, except that she hugely over-reacted and has left me  
> looking like the villain of the piece. Which I am not.
>
> With my best regards, Jane Holland
>
>
>
>
>
> [log in to unmask] wrote:
>> I don't find this poem particularly exciting. I am very sorry for  
>> Geraldine
>> and for Roger Collett who had to get these words out to make himself
>> understood.
>> A good reading was Joshua Stanley's ebook, recommended. And  
>> congratulations
>> for his work.
>>
>> On 8/27/07, Stephen Philip Pain <[log in to unmask] > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Going to the Dogs"
>>>
>>> and the collection is every
>>>
>>> two weeks, so the rats and
>>>
>>> roaches collect
>>>
>>> and the drop is every
>>>
>>> week, so the boys and
>>>
>>> girls drop
>>>
>>> and the country cries
>>>
>>> every day
>>>
>>> and so cry
>>>
>>> so drop
>>>
>>> so collect
>>>
>>> so easily
>>>
>>> do we
>>>
>>> forget to do
>>>
>>> gone to the dogs
>>>
>>>
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>
>
> [log in to unmask] wrote:
>> I don't find this poem particularly exciting. I am very sorry for  
>> Geraldine
>> and for Roger Collett who had to get these words out to make himself
>> understood.
>> A good reading was Joshua Stanley's ebook, recommended. And  
>> congratulations
>> for his work.
>>
>> On 8/27/07, Stephen Philip Pain <[log in to unmask] > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Going to the Dogs"
>>>
>>> and the collection is every
>>>
>>> two weeks, so the rats and
>>>
>>> roaches collect
>>>
>>> and the drop is every
>>>
>>> week, so the boys and
>>>
>>> girls drop
>>>
>>> and the country cries
>>>
>>> every day
>>>
>>> and so cry
>>>
>>> so drop
>>>
>>> so collect
>>>
>>> so easily
>>>
>>> do we
>>>
>>> forget to do
>>>
>>> gone to the dogs
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com*
>>> The most personalized portal on the Web!
>>>
>>>
>>