yes but why should it be an exclusive, unfaltering ideology to stay
'with the times', if what the tonally archaic has to offer amazes as
much as Thomas?
KS
On 23/08/07, Roger Day <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Still, definitely a retreat from modernity.
>
> Roger
>
> On 8/23/07, kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > ... he'd consider IT less ...
> >
> > On 23/08/07, kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > I think he'd consider less a retreat from life & more a delving,
> > > diving into life at its most metaphysical. no less 'real', he & some
> > > would feel, than any hunchback in the park
> > >
> > > KS
> > >
> > > On 22/08/07, Roger Day <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > I actually love the lyricism and the way he uses language. It sings to
> > > > me as no other poetry, and it's the archaism, the tone and his word
> > > > usage that does this to me, but I cannot hide from the fact that the
> > > > content is almost a full scale retreat from modernity, from life.
> > > > Which I suppose is one way of dealing with the violence of his time.
> > > >
> > > > Roger
> > > >
> > > > On 8/22/07, kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > > I don't mind the hint of archaism. it's still fresh & attacking &
> > > > > rumbling & wonderful to me. if being 'modern' means relinquishing the
> > > > > kind of tone possible with Dylan's type oflanguage, I don't think I
> > > > > care to be modern. at least not all the time
> > > > >
> > > > > KS
> > > > >
> > > > > On 21/08/07, Roger Day <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > > > If you want to stay away from the 20th century, yeah, Dylan's yr man.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Roger
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/21/07, kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > > > > another utterly humbling place to go for language recycled & built
> > > > > > > into visions is Dylan Thomas
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > KS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 20/08/07, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Intriguing take, Tad. bpNichol once made the same point, saying, if
> > > > > > > > your nouns & verbs need support, they're not doing the proper work, or
> > > > > > > > words to that effect.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I found the range of poets you've written about intriguing, wide, &
> > > > > > > > often opposing....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Doug
> > > > > > > > On 19-Aug-07, at 12:06 PM, TheOldMole wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And you may want to start rethinking if your poem starts to be
> > > > > > > > > modifier-driven. I've actually written something on this, which you
> > > > > > > > > may find totally useless, but it's on my website at
> > > > > > > > > http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/essays.html under "Tired Words -
> > > > > > > > > Working Words."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Douglas Barbour
> > > > > > > > 11655 - 72 Avenue NW
> > > > > > > > Edmonton Ab T6G 0B9
> > > > > > > > (780) 436 3320
> > > > > > > > http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Latest book: Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy)
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Every time Dick Cheney smiles
> > > > > > > > an angel in heaven
> > > > > > > > gets waterboarded.
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