Another interesting point!
I think a Group would be the best way of interacting with people. When you
say " Facebook users be put off if they thought the group was being
'controlled' by the institution?" I think you would have to be very careful
in how you were portraying the organisation - the worst possible thing to do
would be to try and be 'down with the kids' as mentioned earlier.
I think that unfortunately a lot of people would be put off be the
museum/gallery in the first place. Spaces like Flickr, Facebook etc allow us
to challenge peoples preconceptions of museums and galleries in a fairly
informal and neutral setting. However the amount of pictures of museums and
galleries on Flickr is phenomenal, from places like the Guggenheim to
smaller institutions like the Horniman in Forest Hill and I think people who
are using Flickr/Facebook etc in creative ways are going to be attracted to
the arts in general anyway so there is a huge amount of potential there. I
would love to see the PCF have all its images and reproductions tagged by an
online community. To have the entire series of publicly owned oil paintings
in the UK tagged and used by online communities would be fantastic.
>From: "Brown, Jenny" <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: Museums Computer Group <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Facebook
>Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:31:20 +0100
>
>This is a fascinating thread....
>
>Facebook is about individuals networking not organisations masquerading as
>individuals. So I would see groups as being the ideal way of interacting
>with people.
>
>The potential for discussion and raising awareness of your museum is huge -
>and exciting so I'm all for getting stuck in.
>
>However, would a museum group - administered by a museum person - be the
>best approach? Or would Facebook users be put off if they thought the group
>was being 'controlled' by the institution?
>
>Jenny
>
>--
>Jenny Brown
>The National Gallery
>Trafalgar Square, London
>www.nationalgallery.org.uk
>020 7747 2594
>
>
>On 2/7/07 16:30, "David Salmon" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Matthew,
> >
> > I agree, and that is one of the reasons why I no longer use MySpace. Do
>you
> > think that one of the benefits of Facebook groups is that you can choose
>to
> > leave or join a group depending on your own personal preferences? This
> > surely goes someway in avoiding being sold stuff or being spammed on
>your
> > own homepage/profile.
> >
> > However, I am going to contradict myself yet again (as I seem to have
>done
> > in every reply so far!) and say that I am already beginning to get
>annoyed
> > with the amount of new 'application invites' on Facebook, so perhaps you
>are
> > right and this proves your point.
> >
> >> From: Matthew Cock <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Reply-To: Museums Computer Group <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: Facebook
> >> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:21:44 +0100
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> To play devil's advocate here, surely Facebook is about 'faces', i.e.
> >> people, and once they start allowing organisations, however nice and
> >> personable we may think we are, to act as 'faces', then it starts the
> >> downward slide towards another place where people are sold stuff,
>rather
> >> than where people interact with other people, and the early adopters
> >> will leave for the next 'unspoilt' site, and it will cease to be
> >> fashionable...
> >>
> >> Matthew
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> >> David Salmon
> >> Sent: 02 July 2007 16:13
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: Facebook
> >>
> >> Kurt,
> >>
> >> Thats extremely useful! It seems a shame that non-profit organisations
> >> cannot setup accounts as it would be extremely beneficial to the
> >> cultural sector, but of huge interest to people already on sites such
>as
> >> Facebook etc.
> >>
> >> Do you think sites such as Facebook would be coming round to the idea
>of
> >> letting non-profits use the sites? I think Flikr is one such example.
> >>
> >>> From: hvd2 <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Reply-To: Museums Computer Group <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>> Subject: Re: Facebook
> >>> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 10:50:37 -0400
> >>>
> >>> Hello David,
> >>> I will pass on some information about FaceBook based on my recent
> >>> experiences.
> >>> Facebook is not intended for use by organizations. If they find you
> >>> have made and account for an organization they will delete your
> >>> account. I speak from experience because Facebook deleted an
> >>> organization account I setup about a month ago and about 30 other
> >>> museum related accounts thereafter. I talked with someone at FaceBook
> >>> and they explained it is not intended for use by organizations.
> >>> Just thought you would like to know.
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Kurt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Salmon"
> >>> <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 10:38 AM
> >>> Subject: Facebook
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>>
> >>>> This morning I was asked to set up a Facebook account for our
> >>>> organisation, the Public Catalgoue Foundation. I have a personal
> >>>> account with Facebook, but I would like to know if anyone has setup
>or
> >>
> >>>> thought about creating a similar account for their organisation and
> >>>> what your own experiences/concerns/problems/successes etc. were.
> >>>>
> >>>> In case you are unaware of the project, we are publishing a series of
> >>>> county-by-county catalogues that feature reproductions of oil
> >>>> paintings in publicly-owned collections across the UK. In the
> >>>> not-too-distant future we will be publishing all the catalogue
> >>>> paintings on a free website
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe that my superiors wish to use Facebook to attract a younger
> >>>> audience and raise our profile with more web-savvy people as a step
> >>>> towards the online PCF in a few years time.
> >>>>
> >>>> There are obviously hundreds of issues that this raises, but I would
> >>>> like to know if anyone has setup or thought about creating a similar
> >>>> account for their organisation and what your own
> >>>> experiences/concerns/problems/successes etc. were before I create an
> >>>> Facebook account for our organisation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please feel free to email me off-list, or at
> >>>> [log in to unmask]
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> David.
> >>>>
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