Anny, statements may be "thrown out:" into the agora,
but that's precisely how discussion develops. I don't
recall any instance where a listee was constrained
from participating in a discussion among people who
took diverse viewpoints, but maybe that's because I
was unsubscribed for so long.
Candice
--- Anny Ballardini <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Just in terms of correctness towards languages, and
> referring to the
> direct message that Alison addressed to me publicly
> :
>
> "Capiche" is a mistake
>
> in Italian "che" is read "ke" to have that "sh"
> sound you have to use "sce":
>
> "Capisce"
>
> if you use "Capisce" you are using the form of
> "respect", for those
> who speak German it is the "Sie", "Sie koennen das
> verstehen" or
> literally "Verstehen Sie das?" If you speak French
> it is the Vous,
> "Vous entendez ca, n'est pas?" I'd rather suggest
> that "capisci"
> followed by a question mark would have been the
> right spelling of what
> she wanted to convey.
>
> On my side I do not think she was extremely nice
> towards me. The
> passionate she might have been I do not accept much
> that has been
> written in the latest days. Statements just thrown
> out without giving
> anybody the possibility of differing.
>
> If I am taking this too personally, please let me
> know. The fact I
> highlighted before that there had to be "factions"
> _or you are with me
> or you are against me_ did not suit my basic ideas
> of how a list
> should be.
>
> I have to run to school....
> Anyhow, my best wishes for the choice taken.
>
> Anny Ballardini
> Poetryetc Co-Mgr.
>
> On 6/9/07, Joseph Duemer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Alison Croggon has just signed off Poetryetc.
> Presumably everyone saw her
> > farewell message. I would simply note that over
> the last 24 hours Alison
> > insulted the entire list membership three times:
> >
> > 1. "I thought it was a given that no opinion
> rehearsed here has the
> > imprimatur of Divine Right. I only claim my own
> sensibility. I have reasons
> > for thinking as I do, and if questioned I will
> tell you what those reasons
> > are. I thought that this process was known as
> "discussion"; and certainly
> > during the many years I ran this list, it was
> described as a "discussion
> > list". Perhaps things have changed while I was
> looking elsewhere."
> >
> > This came in as a response to an utterly
> inoffensive post that happened to
> > take issue with something Alison had written.
> >
> > 2. "Slumbrous"
> >
> > That is Alison's characterization, just now, of
> this lively, interesting &
> > unwieldy amalgam of personalities.
> >
> > 3. "[Poetryetc] seems to have become so closed."
> >
> > I hadn't noticed this new uptight & closed
> Poetryetc myself. Had you?
> >
> > To Alison's friends & admirers, I would say that I
> am sorry it came to this,
> > but personally I found her bullying, hectoring
> style of argumentation, in
> > which she simply waved away those who disagreed
> with her & then changed the
> > subject or repeated what she had already said (at
> greater length) tiresome.
> > I have seldom run across a more humorless
> personality online. I think she
> > regretted giving up ownership of the list. I do
> not regret her decision to
> > leave.
> >
> > Joseph Duemer
> > Poetryetc Co-Mgr.
> >
>
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