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Re: Theatrical language and lots of other stuff - maybe a riff

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Jennifer Compton <[log in to unmask]>

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Poetryetc: poetry and poetics

Date:

Sat, 9 Jun 2007 23:47:29 +1000

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Oh by the way I should add I first noticed dad saying capeesh - and he said 
it quite often - when i was about 10 - and that would have been in 1959.


----Original Message Follows----
From: Jennifer Compton <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: "Poetryetc: poetry and poetics" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Theatrical language and lots of other stuff - maybe a riff
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 23:38:09 +1000

Many many many many moons ago I did write for television here in Australia - 
at least I tried to write for it - but not my genre. Not a genre I know much 
about or can penetrate.

I gather there has been a bit of slash and burn going on here while we have 
had a 24 hour power cut - I'm going to miss Alison a lot - but I expect we 
shall catch up in another time and place.

I have such a funny story about Nick Cave's Into My Arms and I nearly nearly 
told it. He sang it at Micheal Hutchence's funeral. I was watching the 
funeral on tv because i was very cross with him because he was meant to be 
coming to see my play on Saturday night but died/killed himself on Saturday 
morning.

Oh dear I seem to be telling the story.

Anyway the sound was cut so we didn't hear the song. Nick Cave didn't want 
it televised. Like the bit in the coronation footage where we don't get to 
see Betty Britain turn holy when she is anointed with oil.

Anyway - there is this boring gap in the funeral - so me and my friend do 
something more interesting.
As we surface panting and gasping and hearts racing I announce - Well! We 
saw him off!

Later I found the song we couldn't hear was Into My Arms.

So it is quite a funny song to me.
I always blush and giggle.

oh and hope you pass the entrance exam kaspar - and get to be a uni sleeping 
student

cheers - jen

ps my dad (in NZ) often used to say this funny word - sounded like capeesh
don't know where he got it from but it seemed to mean - do you get it?

it wasn't until I went to italy for the first time 2 years ago I twigged 
what language it was.

must have picked it up in a movie or maybe during the war when he was based 
in cairo.

----Original Message Follows----
From: Roger Day <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: "Poetryetc: poetry and poetics" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Theatrical language (Re: The lyric 'I' / "Eye ")
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:24:53 +0100

The "what's the most extreme thing we can do to a patient" held it's
fascination for a while ...

"too many writers": isn't that a feature of US TV?

Roger

On 6/8/07, Jennifer Compton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>not my favourite genre
>
>but then i am not sure what genre House is - my first thought was to slot 
>it
>into BIGMESSTOOMANYWRITERS -
>but why can't it be missed?
>I miss it all the time and never miss it
>
>cheers - jen
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: Roger Day <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: "Poetryetc: poetry and poetics" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Theatrical language (Re: The lyric 'I' / "Eye ")
>Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 08:43:49 +0100
>
>you don't like camp gothic medical conspiracies? Melodrama slash horror?
>
>On 6/8/07, Jennifer Compton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >I have got to call you on that one, Candice.
> >I have glanced at House, more in fascinated horror than in any other sort
> >of
> >mood.
> >I kinda liked Laurie as a campy light comedian - sort of sub Noel Coward 
>-
> >and was amused by his books when on a long train journey - but this House
> >thing! What is it? Melodrama slash horror? Camp gothic medical conspiracy
> >theory? Dunno what it is. And poor Hugh seems equally confused.
> >Tell us why you like it, how you rate it, where you slot it?
> >
> >cheers jen
> >
> >----Original Message Follows----
> >From: MC Ward <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: "Poetryetc: poetry and poetics" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Theatrical language (Re: The lyric 'I' / "Eye ")
> >Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 22:25:43 -0700
> >
> >Alison, when I think of British physical
> >training/acting these days, Hugh Laurie comes to mind.
> >Do you get _House_ there? Not to be missed--Candice
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >  > Hi Stephen
> >  >
> >  > Somehow there's a strange horrible charm in the
> >  > picture you draw there...
> >  >
> >  > The Living Theatre is back in New York - so rumours
> >  > of its death are I
> >  > believe premature! Though from what the commentators
> >  > say, the wealthy
> >  > industrialists aren't doing NY theatre much good at
> >  > the present time...
> >  >
> >  > Yes, too right: we had the talking head thing here
> >  > too, and what a yawn that
> >  > was. But what's happening now is tantamount to a
> >  > revolution (some say
> >  > renaissance) - a whole new energy is moving through
> >  > Australian theatre, in
> >  > very myriad ways, so it's hard to generalise. Some
> >  > of it picks up on earlier
> >  > stuff that kind of went underground, but has
> >  > nevertheless always been
> >  > present. Australian theatre has made pretty
> >  > sophisticated inroads into
> >  > physical theatre since the 1970s (Circus Oz and its
> >  > massive impact on
> >  > contemporary circus being probably most famous -
> >  > from Circus Oz came new
> >  > generation circus like Archaos and Cirque de
> >  > Soleil). Nigel Jamieson is
> >  > taking his stunning phyiscal theatre piece on David
> >  > Hicks and Guantanamo to
> >  > the Barbican in London after a very successful
> >  > season in Vienna this month,
> >  > and I'm curious to see how that goes down - it's
> >  > rather different fare to
> >  > the usual documentary-style stuff they do there,
> >  > which I personally think is
> >  > stale and, well, dull...but Jamieson's been around
> >  > for some time, he's older
> >  > than these other artists I'm seeing coming through.
> >  >
> >  > Things like the Bread and Puppet Theatre were
> >  > obviously huge influences in
> >  > the 1970s. These days the mutual influence leans
> >  > more towards Europe -
> >  > directors like Romeo Castellucci and his (amazing)
> >  > Societas Raffaello Sanzio
> >  > are widely admired here. Alot of Australian
> >  > directors work between here and
> >  > Germany, for instance, (Barrie Kosky at the Berliner
> >  > Ensemble, or his years
> >  > at the Vienna Schauspielhaus, Benedict Andrews at
> >  > the Schaubuhne, and
> >  > others) and the playwright Daniel Keene is actually
> >  > much more famous in
> >  > France than he is here. (Though that is beginning to
> >  > change, he had three
> >  > huge productions coming up next year, two in Paris
> >  > and one in SYDNEY, for a
> >  > change.)
> >  >
> >  > What I think is exciting about this new generation
> >  > of theatre-makers is that
> >  > they blend that physical and visual sophistication
> >  > with an equally
> >  > sophisticated approach to language. And with them
> >  > there's a bright bunch of
> >  > designers and technical people in sound, lighting,
> >  > set design etc. (Another
> >  > strong Australian tradition). It means that
> >  > something really interesting is
> >  > happening here, and I'm fascinated to see how these
> >  > brilliant young talents
> >  > evolve -
> >  >
> >  > All best
> >  >
> >  > Alison
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > On 6/8/07, Stephen Vincent <[log in to unmask]>
> >  > wrote:
> >  > >
> >  > > To blend International brands, I like the idea of
> >  > getting a cup of water
> >  > > from the "Furphy" and going to the "John" (the
> >  > American 'can') to take a
> >  > > leak. The makers of Furphies and Johns - in their
> >  > day - were some of the
> >  > > most wealthy industrialists in the world. Did they
> >  > also go to theater? I
> >  > > don't know. Clearly they both understood and built
> >  > their instruments to
> >  > > comfort and satisfy the assertions and needs of
> >  > the language of the body.
> >  > > Clearly many playwrights have turned these
> >  > assertions and functions into
> >  > > theater! (Albert Jarry's Ubu Roi for starters. I
> >  > remember when Oscar Wilde
> >  > > -
> >  > > in jest - publicly asked whether or not Furphy and
> >  > John were lovers. That,
> >  > > too, almost put him  in "the can."
> >  > >
> >  > > In any case, Alison, it's exciting for me to hear
> >  > that Australian theater,
> >  > > or parts of it, are resurrecting the body as an
> >  > implicit part of powerful
> >  > > theater. After a big run here of groups here in
> >  > the States of physically-
> >  > > centered acting - groups such as La Mama, The
> >  > Living Theater, The Bread
> >  > > and
> >  > > Puppet Theater - and the plays of say David Rabe,
> >  > for example - acting and
> >  > > theater seemed to become a talking head profession
> >  > - where the focus was
> >  > > put
> >  > > on troubled faces, and relatively constipated
> >  > physical gestures.   It's
> >  > > often scary, tough stuff for actors and directors
> >  > to do well. Audiences
> >  > > are
> >  > > not really prepared, and there were many
> >  > casualties among the actors in
> >  > > the
> >  > > sixties and seventies.    But I suspect you know
> >  > that, and Caleb has
> >  > > testified to it.   It would curious to see what
> >  > lessons have been learned,
> >  > > or how this new generation is different, as you
> >  > suggest.
> >  > >
> >  > > Stephen V
> >  > > http://stephenvincent.net/blog/
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > > A furphy is a galvanized tin and steel water
> >  > cart. During the First War,
> >  > > > troops would gather around them and exchange
> >  > gossip. Hence 'furphies'.
> >  > > > Or so it's said. Made by J.Furphy & Co. Joseph
> >  > Furphy wrote Such is Life
> >  > > > (as Tom Collins):'temper democratic; bias,
> >  > offensively Australian'.
> >  > > >
> >  > > > Caleb
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > >> Whatever a furphy is, it's no furphy that a
> >  > soso
> >  > > >> play can be used as a scaffold for an
> >  > interesting
> >  > > >> evening of theater. As to the rest, we can
> >  > assert
> >  > > >> at each other with no end in sight.
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > >
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