Alison, I agree with you about tact, but I also think
of sincerity as a _tactic_.
Candice
--- Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> It occurs to me too that the question of sincerity
> in art is a matter of
> _tact_.
>
> Btw Anny, it wasn't sincerity that killed Wilde, but
> a fatal meeting between
> homophobia and pride: he sued the Marquess of
> Queensberry for criminal libel
> when the Marquess called him a sodomite, lost the
> case when the defence
> exposed his taste for rent boys and then was
> prosecuted for "gross
> indecency" ie being a sodomite. His suing for libel
> can hardly be described
> as "sincere"! Though definitely tragic.
>
> On 6/6/07, Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > I rate Wilde's fairy tales highly - very highly in
> fact, some are among
> > his best work. It's there that he works his high
> artifice and deep feeling
> > truly together. The only part of oeuvre that
> doesn't do anything for me is,
> > oddly enough, his poems. His criticism, his plays
> and his stories - the
> > comic as well as the serious - take my breath
> away.
> >
> > The stories are not sincere (people here seem to
> think that "sincere"
> > means "feeling"; no it doesn't, not in the sense I
> mean it, not in the sense
> > Wilde meant it. It means the newsreader lowering
> her voice for the next sad
> > bit of news before skipping on to th cute cat
> rescue story, or the
> > politician leaning over the desk). They create an
> alternative imagined
> > reality in which Wilde can permit the play of real
> feeling.
> >
> > xA
> >
> > On 6/6/07, MC Ward <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Wasn't it Keats who said we distrust anything
> that has
> > > designs on us?
> > >
> > > If poetry doesn't have such designs on its
> readers,
> > > then what is it for? I love the sensation of
> being in
> > > the hands of a master the minute I begin reading
> a
> > > really fine poem. Bring on the designs and blow
> me
> > > away!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Anny Ballardini <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > As a matter of fact, "sincerity was fatal" to
> Wilde,
> > > > as it was or has been
> > > > to many. We do not want to confuse a metaphor
> for
> > > > the essence, the
> > > > awareness, the profound consciousness of the
> Author,
> > > > do we? Logically
> > > > anybody can counterfeit the work of others by
> using
> > > > an "I" in this case
> > > > willingly and deceitfully made personal. It is
> what
> > > > happens (has been
> > > > happening) all over the place. And that is why
> very
> > > > few are the poets or
> > > > writers that make it into the "golden shrine".
> > > >
> > > > "Sinceritas"
> > > > what a clean word!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anny Ballardini
> > > > http://annyballardini.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> http://www.fieralingue.it/modules.php?name=poetshome
> > > > http://www.moriapoetry.com/ebooks.html
> > > > I Tell You: One must still have chaos in one
> to give
> > > > birth to a dancing
> > > > star!
> > > > Friedrich Nietzsche
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 6/6/07, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This from the Online Etymological
> Dictionary:
> > > > > "sincerity. 1546, from M.Fr. sincérité
> (1519),
> > > > > from L. sinceritatem (nom. sinceritas), from
> > > > > sincerus "sound, pure, whole," perhaps
> originally
> > > > > "of one growth" ( i.e. "not hybrid,
> unmixed"),
> > > > > from sem-, sin- "one" + root of crescere "to
> > > > > grow" (see
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > <
>
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=crescent>crescent).
> > > > > Ground sense is of "that which is not
> falsified."
> > > > >
> > > > > I spoke of "the Wordsworth in the poems." I
> am
> > > > > interested in (value) poets because of the
> poems
> > > > > they wrote, on the assumption that the poems
> > > > > didn't spring up like mushrooms. Or as you
> put it,
> > > > "someone made it."
> > > > >
> > > > > It might be good to remember that Wilde, in
> > > > > addition to a lot of work that remains
> > > > > convincing, wrote in a fit of deep
> "sincerity"
> > > > > the bathetic "Ballad of Reading Gaol" and
> the (to
> > > > > my mind) barely tolerable fairy tales.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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