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Re: Sunday AM Snap

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Poetryetc: poetry and poetics

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Sun, 27 May 2007 18:51:39 -0400

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I didn't have to be taught to be boring. It just came naturally to me.

Roger Day wrote:
> Dude, you could at least ask her *why she switched metre. Who knows?
> Laura may have an answer mapped out.
>
> Ah, that's how people are taught to be boring. Always wondered.
>
> Roger
>
> On 5/27/07, TheOldMole <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> L:aura -- there's no law that says all lines have to scan the same way.
>> The danger, though, is that a reader may not see it as a deliberate
>> choice, and then it does sound clumsy.
>>
>> Every time you commit a word or a phrase to paper, you are making a
>> promise to the reader. You can either keep that promise, or break it. If
>> you keep all your promises, you'll be a very boring writer  -- so that's
>> certainly not the way to go.
>>
>> Eliot promises the reader, in the first two lines of "Prufrock," a
>> romantic, pastoral image, and then he breaks that promise by comparing
>> the evening to a patient etherized on a table. The effect is startling
>> and exhilarating.
>>
>> When you write a poem that's two medium-length stanzas and a couplet,
>> the reader takes it in with the eye, and expects he's going to be
>> reading a sonnet. When instead, he gets two seven-line stanzas followed
>> by a couplet, and a rhyme scheme that sounds sonnet-like but isn't, he
>> realizes that the sonnet-promise has been broken, and it's a delight.
>>
>> When you start by writing a few lines in iambic pentameter, and then
>> switch meters, that's another broken promise, and maybe it's another one
>> that you want. But it comes with a little danger. With the 16 lines,
>> there's a good chance that the average reader (me) will say, "Hey, what
>> a neat switch on the sonnet form she thought up!" When, in a sort of
>> irregular pattern, you break the iambic pentameter progress, the reader
>> may say, "Hey, that's neat! I can tell she meant to do it." But the
>> reader may also say, "Uh-oh, she counted that out wrong." And then it
>> takes something away from the reading experience, rather than adding
>> something.
>>
>> Laura Heidy wrote:
>> >
>> > In a message dated 5/27/2007 12:21:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> > [log in to unmask] writes:
>> >
>> > A little  problem with the scansion -- line 4 has one foot too 
>> many. This
>> > could be  fixed by leaving out the first foot -- "from home" -- 
>> which may
>> > be better  anyway because that's a hard enjambment to get around as it
>> > stands.
>> >
>> > One foot too many in line 5 -- you might try to tighten it  up in the
>> > middle -- bullets knowing your name is sort of a war movie  cliche. 
>> That
>> > way you could keep the rhyme word at the end.
>> >
>> > One too  many in line 7 -- unless you're trying to alternate 
>> pentameter
>> > and  hexameter? But it's not really alternate lines, and that would 
>> be a
>> > lot of  adjustment to ask of a sonnet-reader. You could cut out 
>> "city,"
>> > but it's  probably the best word in the line. Maybe "only"? I think 
>> you
>> > cover the  meaning with "be /the /star."
>> >
>> > Stanza 2, line 5 -- cutting out "and try"  would solve it.
>> > Line 6 is a foot short.
>> >
>> > Line 7 is actually two feet  too long.
>> >
>> > The second line of the concluding couplet is a foot  short.
>> >
>> >
>> > I kinda agree that the language is a little archaic in  spots. "Or 
>> shall
>> > I choose" doesn't quite fit a contemporary poem, and  "Maybe I'll 
>> choose"
>> > would scan just as well.
>> >
>> > I very much like the  rhyme scheme of the second stanza -- ABABCDC 
>> -- and
>> > as a result, I miss  the "A" rhyme in the first stanza. Also, and this
>> > may be gilding the lily,  did you consider making the two "D" lines 
>> rhyme
>> > across  stanzas?
>> >
>> > Laura Heidy wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Ill  Fated
>> >>
>> >> So shall I choose to die as young men die  -
>> >> inside the  car when death meets dash and grins
>> >> his  rictus grin - or crouched in sand too  far
>> >> from home and suddenly  aware that no one wins -
>> >> or on a street where  bullets know my  name and why
>> >> I'm there and for one brief and brilliant flash
>> >> I'll be the only star that lights the city sky?
>> >>
>> >> Or  shall I choose to  live as old man live -
>> >> with palsied limbs and  shuffling gait - with  eyes
>> >> grown dim and ears grown deaf - my  mind a sieve
>> >> that cannot hold unto  the truths or lies
>> >>  which I've held dear no matter how I try and try -
>> >> With  skipping heart and stiffened lungs
>> >> that even drugs will not  quite  manage to disguise?
>> >>
>> >> I fear free will is just the  final ruse.
>> >> There is  no choice nor shall I  choose.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  ************************************** See what's free at
>> >>
>> > http://www.aol.com.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> -- 
>> Tad Richards
>> http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/
>> http://opusforty.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>

-- 
Tad Richards
http://www.opus40.org/tadrichards/
http://opusforty.blogspot.com/

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