isnt most modern poetry a complex transcription of thought, sound and
found? A continuous rewriting between all three modes? Until some
arbitrary moment when the poem is "finished"?
For the reader - or listener - they construct their own poem out of
what they perceive.
If you say that that the writer delivers a specific content to the
reader, then you might say that the reader/listeners re-construction
loses something in the translation. However, I don't think poetry
works like that. Poems aren't delivering a set of facts to the reader.
What appears to the reader is, to me, as valid as the grid that the
poet sets to try and control the reader. So nothing is lost, rather,
the content is changed in the process, with additions as well as
subtractions.
I'll get to bed. I think I've got flu/something.
Roger
On 5/18/07, Joanna Boulter <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Is the written poem a notation of the original oral? Or are you saying that
> one starts from the written word and then reads it aloud? I find that a
> difficult concept to get my head round. After all, spoken language predated
> the written word, and even the pictogram.
>
> I can however go along with the idea that any language, spoken or written,
> is a translation of the original thought.
>
> joanna
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Cudmore" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 6:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Yang Lian
>
>
> >I should like to hear the original spoken. But would that be a solecism? Is
> > it the case that, for a listener who understands the native language the
> > poem is written in, something has already been 'lost in translation' in
> > hearing the poem spoken as opposed to reading it from the page?
> >
> > P
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >> On Behalf Of Alison Croggon
> >> Sent: 18 May 2007 15:33
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Fwd: Yang Lian
> >>
> >> A generous lurker tracked down the Du Fu translation exercise I
> >> mentioned
> >> earlier - if anyone's interested, it's at
> >>
> >> *http://inside.bard.edu/capstonejournal/2003/df-index.htm
> >> * <http://inside.bard.edu/capstonejournal/2003/df-index.htm>
> >>
> >> xA
> >>
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