Maureen,
In total agreement with you on the HK titles, so if HK are lurking on
the list please note that we would love to go e-only and possibly
increase our number of subscriptions to HK titles, however, the rolling
wall policy will prevent this happening, therefore you are loosing
revenue!
I am sure we are not the only ones out there?
Regards
Graham
Graham Stone
Electronic Resources Librarian
Institutional Repository Manager
The University of Bolton
Eagle LSC
Deane Road
Bolton
BL3 5AB
Tel: +44 (0)1204 903099
Fax: +44 (0)1204 903166
URL: http://www.bolton.ac.uk/learning/
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From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Maureen Richardson
Sent: 03 May 2007 19:32
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Rolling access to electronic subscriptions
I also am frustrated by this. We have several titles from Human Kinetics
- they publish sports journals. For 2007 we went online only. By chance
really I contacted HK last week to check we would have access if we were
to cancel a title. HK said we would have no access to even paid years if
we cancelled and would always only have the last 5 years for current
subs (the rolling wall) She advised me to go back to print with online.
Financially of course I am in time to do this. I have contacted Swets
and changed our subs to print with online and we will put the 2007 +
issues in a Store but what a waste! We had gone online already for one
title in 2004 so now I am just re-ordering the print backruns for this
title for 2004-2006. One reason I contacted HK was that I was updating
our ERM and could not remember ever receiving a licence from them. They
do not provide a licence. I guess I was at fault for going online only
without checking but....
Maureen
Maureen Richardson
Electronic Resources Manager
Information Resources
Learning Resource Centre
Edge Hill University
St Helens Rd
Ormskirk
Lancashire L39 4QP
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>>> Lesley Crawshaw <[log in to unmask]> 05/03/07 5:10 PM >>>
Hi Jenifer,
I agree totally and share your outrage. I only wish I'd got more time to
look into this whole issue rather than come across them on a case by
case
basis.
We've had several discussions on this list over the years about rolling
walls. In some of the earliest cases publishers such as ACS and SAGE
dropped
their rolling wall policy and moved to the more acceptable fixed wall
policy. However, it seems that recently some publishers have decided to
or
are thinking about introducing the rolling wall into their subscription
models.
The most recent discussion on this list relates to INFORMS where
subscribers
suddenly found that they lost access to content that they had previously
had
access to and without any warning. Several of us have lobbied INFORMS -
some
privately and some in public - to try and get them to change their mind.
INFORMS said that they'd had a moving wall for years, but having scoured
their web site I couldn't find anywhere that spelt it out (I haven't
looked
recently so they may have updated their site). In the case of INFORMS we
had
to suddenly change our decision to go online only from 2007 and move
back to
print/online. However, we have still suffered a loss of access since the
journals moved onto their new site and this access has never been
restored.
INFORMS did welcome the input to this list on their policy, but some of
us
still aren't convinced that they fully understand our position.
In these and other cases it seems that the rolling wall policy is being
adopted in parallel with the digitization and sale of the backfiles.
Personally I am unhappy at being forced to purchase backfiles just in
order
to not end up with holes in our journal holdings for particular titles.
The
decision to purchase backfile(s) should not have to be made on the basis
of
losing access to material in the frontfiles.
We've another example with the American Speech-Language Hearing
Association
who I think have a moving wall policy associated with the purchase of
the
backfile. Again we were told that "this was what librarians wanted".
Many publishers are saying that this is popular with librarians, but
many of
us are wondering which librarians publishers are talking to. I have yet
to
meet or hear from a librarian who supports the rolling wall.
I have several times tried to lobby publishers to change their mind on
such
issues, but such lobbying can take a large amount of time and effort.
What do other librarians on this list think about the rolling wall
issue?
Where are the librarians who publishers keep telling us about who want
these
rolling walls? If you're out there we would like to hear from you as
well.
Cheers
Lesley
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-----Original Message-----
From: An informal open list set up by the UK Serials Group
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Holman Jenifer S
Sent: 02 May 2007 17:13
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Rolling access to electronic subscriptions
Also posted to eril-l (apologies to those who receive both).....
If there were one reason why we must continue print subscriptions it
would be this:
Some publishers (American Fisheries Society, International Reading
Association) offer an electronic only subscription that rolls. That's
right, it rolls. Even if you continue your subscription, you lose
access to that 5th year. In the case of Reading Teacher, the policy is
even worse, access rolls at the beginning of each new volume, giving
users access to just one issue at certain points in the year.
Individual subscribers (who pay half the subscription fee by the way)
have access to the entire archives.
What's even worse, American Fisheries Society's institutional access
policy (http://www.fisheries.org/afs/publications_libraryterms.html)
indicates that:
Permanent access to AFS online journals is not available in years when a
subscribing institution does not renew a subscription. However, a
subscriber may download and (if appropriate) print out one archival copy
of the purchased volume. Normal "fair use" privileges accrue to archival
copies. Moreover, a subscribing institution has access to the entire
historical journal database even for years in which it had not
subscribed.
EBSCO assures us, however, that this is really not the case and that the
access truly is rolling. I'm still trying to actually get someone at
American Fisheries to speak to me.
Are there other publishers expecting libraries to accept this situation?
Are you as outraged as I am? When Sports Illustrated failed to deliver
the swimsuit issue hundreds of irate librarians called SI and emailed
listservs, calling for action. I'm pretty sure that SI will not leave
libraries out the loop next year.
Where is our outrage with society publishers? Has anyone successfully
lobbied to get these rolling terms changed?
Until the situation improves, we will continue to need print
subscriptions.
Jenifer Holman
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Jenifer Holman
Acquisitions Librarian
Murphy Library
University of Wisconsin-La Crosse
1631 Pine St.
La Crosse, WI 54601
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