Great idea Jonathon
andy
> I can offer irc://irc.freenode.net/#accessibility
>
> this is an internet relay chat channel for discussion around internet
> and accessibility.
> The content is logged here: http://acc-logs.jibbering.com/
>
> mostly it's very quiet but a few conferences such as OzWAI let rip.
>
> IRC is great for minutes, transferring links etc. in real time,
> documenting proposed changes to specs, those not able to be present on
> phone....
>
> after the event it's fully indexed by search engines.
>
> regards
>
> Jonathan Chetwynd
>
>
>
> On 12 May 2007, at 23:36, Sharon Perry wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone
>
> Well, this has really opened up the debate on physical versus virtual
> SIG meetings. The ideal route seems to be a mixture of the two - say a
> couple of face-to-face meetings over the year with some virtual sessions
> in between. Now, the only problem is to get the technology to do the
> job. There have been some useful suggestions of accessible audio and
> chat software, but does the holy grail of accessible conferencing
> software exist, i.e something that will show presentations with a
> presenter - possibly with a video view of the presenter, but that may
> not be as important as being able to show presentations with voiceover,
> and allowing audio and chat? It's possible that web services such as
> SlideShare (for presentations) and Skype (for chat), for example, might
> fulfil some of the criteria, but it would be nice to be able to have
> everything synchronised.
>
> If you have any suggestions, let me know.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Sharon.
>
> Sharon Perry,
> Accessibility Domain Co-ordinator,
> JISC CETIS,
> University of Bolton.
>
> Website: http://wiki.cetis.ac.uk/Accessibility
>
>
>
> Vashti Zarach wrote:
>> I like this idea too.
>>
>> Vashti
>>
>> --- John Casey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi All I like that idea! many of us can only attend one or
>>> 2 SIGs but would
>>> like to go to others as well but don't have the
>>> time. In the past the EC SIG has had joint meetings with
>>> the Pedagogy and also
>>> the Metadata SIG, I found that very useful. Don't always have to
>>> meet together but something
>>> like this every so
>>> often would aid a more integrated approach. Cheers John
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Selwyn Lloyd <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>
>>> 05/11/07 10:27 am >>>
>>> I like Adrians Idea of running SIG meetings in more
>>> than one location...
>>> linked up by technology would be nice to have to.
>>>
>>> I'd like to extend his idea a little, by suggesting
>>> several CETIS-SIGS
>>> meetings with several SIGS represented at each
>>> meeting.
>>>
>>> Around the same time if not the same day.
>>>
>>> A bit like the JISC briefings I suppose going to
>>> regions.
>>>
>>> The idea of them being run at the same day in
>>> different regions and
>>> linked by technology feels quite exciting.
>>>
>>> I think this would be particularly helpful and reach
>>> wider numbers of
>>> people who are restricted by time and budget.
>>>
>>> I think it would be a good way to exchange ideas and
>>> knowledge between
>>> the SIGS and follow on from some of the joint SIGS.
>>>
>>> It might also mean people may just attend 1/2 a day
>>> on their focus at
>>> their discretion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Vashti Zarach wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> It's Vashti here, I run the CETIS Enterprise SIG,
>>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>> used to assist Sharon with the Accessibiity SIG.
>>>>
>>>> I got home late last night from a meeting in
>>>>
>>> London (I
>>>
>>>> live in North Wales) and read all these messages.
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to say two things. Firstly that I think
>>>>
>>> all
>>>
>>>> the CETIS SIG coordinators are very conscious of
>>>>
>>> this
>>>
>>>> issue of getting people across the country to
>>>>
>>> events,
>>>
>>>> and like Sharon, some of us have been asking our
>>>>
>>> SIG
>>>
>>>> members to express preferences for locations, and
>>>>
>>> are
>>>
>>>> also looking into virtual meetings. As well as
>>>>
>>> saving
>>>
>>>> travel time, we are all conscious of needing to
>>>> minimise the environmental impact of meetings. I
>>>>
>>> think
>>>
>>>> it's great that Sharon is asking you all for your
>>>> thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> Which brings me to my second point. How do I put
>>>>
>>> this?
>>>
>>>> I felt there was a slightly cross tone to some of
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> replies, and that all SIG coordinators can do is
>>>>
>>> try
>>>
>>>> their best to vary their locations to suit some of
>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>> people some of the time. It's not usually possible
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>> please all the people all the time, although we
>>>>
>>> try
>>>
>>>> our best. I think it's good to keep sending your
>>>> replies and thoughts on both location and virtual
>>>> meetings to Sharon, your coordinators want to
>>>>
>>> please
>>>
>>>> as many of you as possible, but bear in mind she
>>>> cannot hold a meeting in several places
>>>>
>>> simultaneously
>>>
>>>> and is doing her best!
>>>>
>>>> A final point, there were some disgruntled replies
>>>> about coming to Bangor, but bear in mind that us
>>>>
>>> North
>>>
>>>> Walians *always* have to travel for hours to
>>>>
>>> meetings,
>>>
>>>> and once in a blue moon, it's nice for us to have
>>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>>> meeting in Wales or Chester, and venues are often
>>>> cheaper up here.
>>>>
>>>> yours harmoniously,
>>>>
>>>> Vashti Zarach
>>>> CETIS Enterprise SIG Coordinator
>>>>
>>>> --- Adrian Higginbotham
>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> how about a couple of simultaneous physical
>>>>>
>>> meetings
>>>
>>>>> in different locations with one or two people at
>>>>> each connected to the other meeting via Skype etc
>>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>>> communicate the goings on - I can see that might
>>>>> work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alternatively make some of the meetings more
>>>>> informal affairs in the evenings around events
>>>>>
>>> which
>>>
>>>>> a number of group members are atending - set up a
>>>>> diary on the group area to establish if several
>>>>> people are going to be at the same conference
>>>>>
>>> etc.
>>>
>>>>> sure there are lots of opportunities.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Adrian Higginbotham
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Accessibility content manager
>>>>>
>>>>> British Educational Communications and Technology
>>>>> Agency - BECTA
>>>>> Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Becta
>>>>>
>>> switchboard
>>>
>>>>> 02476-416994.
>>>>>
>>>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/
>>>>> BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park,
>>>>>
>>> Coventry,
>>>
>>>>> CV4 7JJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: JISC CETIS Accessibility Mailing List
>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Lewis, Graham
>>>>> Sent: 10 May 2007 19:13
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: Invitation to Accessibility SIG
>>>>>
>>> Meeting
>>>
>>>>> - Accessibility and Beyond: Re-energising and
>>>>> Re-focusing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would agree with Jonothan - online meetings
>>>>>
>>> have
>>>
>>>>> their uses but the face to face meetings are the
>>>>> ones that recharge my batteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> While established technologies like email work
>>>>>
>>> for
>>>
>>>>> group meetings, many other things that offer a
>>>>> 'broader bandwidth' of communication such as
>>>>>
>>> SKYPE,
>>>
>>>>> Breeze etc are not used by everybody so some are
>>>>> going to be left out.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the issues I have with these things is
>>>>>
>>> that
>>>
>>>>> while they may be fairly accessible to use, they
>>>>>
>>> are
>>>
>>>>> a sod to install i.e. fail on accessibility at
>>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>> first hurdle.
>>>>>
>>>>> Graham Lewis
>>>>>
>>>>> Centre for Academic and Professional Development
>>>>> University of Warwick
>>>>> University House
>>>>> Kirby Corner Road
>>>>> Coventry CV4 8UW
>>>>> UK
>>>>>
>> === message truncated ===
>>
>>
>> Vashti Zarach
>> JISC CETIS Enterprise SIG Coordinator / XCRI Support Project
>> University of Bolton
>>
>> Website: http://wiki.cetis.ac.uk/Enterprise
>> Blog: http://blogs.cetis.ac.uk/vashti/
>> Emails: [log in to unmask] / [log in to unmask]
>> Skype: vashti_muppet
>>
>>
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