Every time, Kasper? Come on. And why should your >personal critical
viewpoint< not also be critiqued, as I believe they say now in the
halls of academe?
Anent the easiness of love in that other thread - well, you are young.
You still have illusions, and es ist gut so. (Sorry about the German - I
don't know the Finnish translation.)
I merely quoted the "Gasper" quip, imagining that it was already common
currency on the list and I had missed it. Your (...surely?) suggests you
are not so sure. As an inconstant reader of the messagerie (excuse my
French) neither am I.
mj
kasper salonen wrote:
> "to make the ordinary extraordinary, to wipe
> the cobwebs from our pedestrian senses, is one of the primary tasks of
> the poet, surely."
>
> of course! and I think I've praised & gushed about the beauty in the
> common & about WCW himself on more than one occasion around here. I
> just didn't find this particular poem 'extraordinary'; though I did
> find a great deal to laud, & I'm starting to find it genuinely
> tiresome that every time I voice some personal critical viewpoint, I
> get people rushing to the scene with half-playful retorts &
> 'defenses'.
>
> also, while it isn't my particular cup of tea, I find the snap format
> interesting & fun as well; I just hope, as ever, that there comes no
> urge or temptation for the frivolous.
>
> MJ, I'm glad to hear, as I'm sure Max is, that this resonated with
> you. it's a nice statement to make -- "this spoke to me personally". I
> just sometimes feel like making the opposite statement tends to be
> interpreted as some kind of offense.
>
> (plus I don't gasp all that much, surely?)
>
> KS
>
> On 25/04/07, andrew burke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Well, Max, I can't let 'Gasper' have the last say on this! I agree
>> some of the wording is ambiguous at times, and that some of the
>> repetitions and description could be edited, but surely that is one of
>> the beauties of this 'snap' format: that the poet can see the raw work
>> in front of him/her and have some objectivity to it so as to be able
>> to edit it better. The energy of laying this down comes through loud
>> and clear, and the older man's delight in his wife's shape is shared
>> gleefully - and, for a reader of my vintage, with a touch of
>> camaraderie.
>>
>> Now, as to the ordinariness of the subject of this poem and many
>> others of Max's oeuvre: to make the ordinary extraordinary, to wipe
>> the cobwebs from our pedestrian senses, is one of the primary tasks of
>> the poet, surely. I take great delight in the delight taken by Max in
>> everyday occurrences. And I always enjoy Max's humility - he does not
>> over-reach or lay it on too thick, but rather underplays his tales of
>> the everyday. There in lies great art.
>>
>> That's my take on it. I'm certain Dr Williams would agree.
>>
>> No dis to Gasp intended, but all praise to Max and the Snap format.
>>
>> Androo
>>
>>
>> On 25/04/07, kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> > "scavenging in hungry raucous troops" is a bit much, it's a rather
>> > long phrase amid the well-timed tempo.
>>
>>
>> http://hispirits.blogspot.com/
>> http://www.inblogs.net/hispirits
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/aburke/
>>
>
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A man may write of love, and not be in love, as well as of husbandrie, and not goe to plough: or of witches, and be none: or of holinesse, and be flat prophane. - Giles Fletcher the Elder.
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