Hi Lesley,

Can you update us on Monday @ UTSG? As well as blogging!
I'll try and understand this on the looong journey south. 

Thanks for all your very valuable comments.

C.

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>From: [log in to unmask] 
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lesley Crawshaw
>Sent: 13 April 2007 15:42
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: RE: [lib-stats] PubMed Central and Usage Statistics
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>Hi,
>
>Sorry about yet another email on this, but I think urgent 
>clarification is needed on this whole issue. 
>
>Having just been speaking to a couple of publishers (who will remain
>anonymous) they both confirmed a substantial proportion of the 
>usage of their titles was occurring through PMC and that PMC 
>held the full content of their journals once the embargoed 
>period was over. However, they were not able to break down the 
>figures any further e.g. by institutions etc. One of them said 
>that @40% of their total usage was being generated through PMC!
>
>If this is the case for other publishers as well that's an 
>awful lot of usage that we are being denied access to and 
>could mean that if we are making subscription decisions on 
>incomplete usage data then we could be making some very bad 
>decisions indeed!
>
>If you look at: 
>http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/fprender.fcgi?cmd=full_view
>there is a column called Publink Access - "indicates that PMC 
>links to the publisher's site for the full text of articles, 
>possibly even for free articles". Strangely there are very few 
>journals in this list that provide for this. Might this be a 
>way out of this problem (if indeed it exists) i.e.
>that PMC should always link to the primary site? 
>
>I realise that publishers do not always like to come out in 
>public (not intended as a double entendre) on this list, but 
>if any out there can help clarify things with me in this 
>respect off list I would be prepared to guarantee their 
>complete anonymity when reporting back to this list. The 
>reason for saying this is that only those publishers 
>participating in PMC have access to the information on the 
>usage of their journals across the various platforms their 
>journals are hosted on.
>
>Finally, why can't PMC provide publisher information for each 
>journal on their web site?
>
>That's all for now folks. Have a good weekend and hope to see 
>many of you at UKSG next week!
>
>Cheers
>Lesley
> 
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lesley Crawshaw [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: 13 April 2007 14:08
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: RE: [lib-stats] PubMed Central and Usage Statistics
>
>Hi,
>
>If we take the example of BMJ and select a 2007 article on 
>PubMed Central it does indeed take me to the Highwire site. 
>There is a note on the page that says "Full Text is available 
>to subscribers, at the Publisher's Site. Free full text will 
>be available in PMC 36 months after publication, on January 6, 
>2010". A DOI is also provided which appears to back this up.
>
>However if I select a 2000 issue (i.e. free content) there is 
>no DOI provided and it "appears" that full text in this case 
>is being delivered from PubMed Central and not from the Highwire site. 
>
>So it looks like the full text for the non-free content is 
>delivered via their Highwire site, but the free content is 
>being delivered from the PubMed Central site. 
>
>However, as we are subscribers to this title we would be 
>interested in all the usage generated by this title whether it 
>is free or not. I think! I won't get into having separate 
>usage statistics for the archive here as I am sure this will 
>continue to be debated on this list. 
>
>Can anyone else throw any light on this?
>
>Cheers
>Lesley
>
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>Information Services University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield, 
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>From: [log in to unmask]
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Karin Perols
>Sent: 13 April 2007 13:22
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: SV: [lib-stats] PubMed Central and Usage Statistics
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>Hi,
>
>I might be wrong here but are you not redirected to the BMJ 
>site for the more recent articles so you actually get the full 
>text from BMJ (or Highwire I suppose)? The statistcs would 
>show up there then.
>
>Kind regards
>Karin
>
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>Karin Perols
>Karolinska Institutet
>Universitetsbiblioteket / University Library 8:100 (Alfred 
>Nobels allé 8)
>SE-141 83 Huddinge
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>Ämne: [lib-stats] PubMed Central and Usage Statistics
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>Hi,
>
>I don't know whether anyone can help me with this query, but I 
>am confused about usage statistics on PubMed Central. Many 
>journals that exist in other places also have a presence on 
>PubMed Central. For example the American Society for 
>Microbiology journals are available both through Highwire and 
>through PubMed Central. However according to the FAQs on 
>PubMedCentral PMC doesn't report use by specific institutions. 
>Does this mean that institutions have no way of knowing about 
>the usage of titles on PubMed Central? Does this mean then for 
>e.g. the ASM journals that it is impossible to have a complete 
>picture of their usage because some of the information is not 
>available to us...or...is this information collected on their 
>Highwire site?
>
>At: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/about/faq.html	
>
>"What kinds of usage statistics does PubMed Central provide to 
>participating journals?
>Each publisher has password-controlled access to a web site 
>that has usage reports for that publisher's journal(s). The 
>reports, updated daily and aggregated by month, include counts 
>of available articles, total access by type of page (table of 
>contents, abstract, full-text HTML, PDF, etc.) unique IP 
>addresses, and most frequently retrieved or cited articles. 
>Line graphs of each measure supplement the reports. Any report 
>may also be downloaded as a CSV file, for analysis with a 
>spreadsheet package such as Microsoft Excel.
>PMC also provides a CSV file each month, with usage for the 
>month at the article level. PMC's usage reports generally 
>contain all information called for in the COUNTER 
>specification, except that PMC does not report use by specific 
>institutions. NLM's privacy policy prevents the reporting of 
>use at an individual or organizational level". 
>
>Apologies if I've got this totally wrong, but I only started 
>thinking about this when a lecturer asked me this morning if 
>she had to request an early article from BMJ through 
>interlibrary loans. I pointed her in the direction of PubMed 
>Central where she got the article. It started me wondering 
>about where the usage statistics were gathered for this and 
>all the other titles that appear on PubMed Central and through 
>other sites.
>
>Cheers
>Lesley
>
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>Information Services University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield, 
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