Hi All,

Here I send you the messages me and Mario have exchanged with Markus...

Cheers
Goncalo Borges

####

Hi Markus,

I have been checking with my colleagues (and in my notes) what we did
for installing gLite under SL4.
As fair as I can remember, one of the main motivations was that we were
needing NFS4 shared directories, with kerberos support, and NFS3 was not
stable enough for our needs.
The second motivation was just to see if we were able to do it since SL4
would become the official CERN distribution is a short time.
Now we have a CE (ce02.lip.pt) in production and another CE
(pprod03.lip.pt) in pre-production running in this way.
Obviously, we just did what was possible to us, namely changing some rpm
dependencies or re-compiling some packages.

Mario David sent an email to LCG-ROLLOUT on the 6th June 2006 explaining
what we did, but I'll summarize hereafter:

For almost/all the nodes there are some dependencies problems which were
solved by taking the packages from SL3:
  a) commons-logging-* and libgcj-ssa ;
  b) torque* needs libtcl8.3.so and libtk8.3.so (exactly) and so we
forced a "nodeps" for the torque;
  c) classads-g3 needs libstdc++ = 3.2.3 (exactly) and so we installed
compat-libstdc++-33-3.2.3-47.3 (from sl4 normal repo).

These changes worked for the SE (dcache, dpm), LFC and MON nodes.
However, in the lcg-CE node, the openldap 2.2-** (from the SL4) gives
problems for the site bdii, with errors on the slapadd into the bdii
database. It seems the version 2.2 is stricter than 2.0. Therefore, we
have compiled openldap 2.0-** in sl4 and downgraded the package and now
it seems to work OK.

The real problem arises in the glite-UI and glite-WN, namelly when you
run yaim function config_glite. Here, you really need python 2.2
(whereas python 2.3 comes in SL4).
The problematic packages are PyXML and 4Suite (at least xpath function).
To solve this issue, we have profit from a Valentim Vidic's suggestion,
and we have copied the directory /usr/lib/python2.2 and
/usr/bin/python2.2 from a SL3 machine to our SL4 nodes. So, everytime we
need to run yaim, we just point /usr/bin/python to /usr/bin/python2.2.
After running the yaim configuration, we return to python2.3 because we
are afraid for the OS to break.

And until now everything seems to be working. However, it is really hard
every time we need to perform updates in the middleware because the
middleware checks for specific versions of some packages (which can be
different under SL4) and this takes more time than usual. You can also
not run "apt-get" with python2.3 and we perfom the updates using "yaim".

I just describe in a few lines a week of work.
I hope this information fits your needs.

Best Regards
Goncalo

###

Mario David wrote:
> Hi Louis
>
> I had sent a mail a long ago to Markus when he asked me most of this
> stuff
> that mail contains a lot more details than this one
>
> cheers
>
> Mario
>
> Quoting Louis Poncet <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>> Mario thanks a lot we will use thoses informations for the repository
>> creation (we were aware of python and some other = problems in dep list.
>> But again those pkg are not compile on the proper Os.
>>
>>
>> Lp
>> --
>> Laird Louis Poncet
>> Where: Bat28-R-003 CERN
>> CH-1211 Geneve 23
>> Mail : [log in to unmask]
>> Phone: +41(0)227.674.231
>> LAL / IN2P3 / CNRS / CERN
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 11 avr. 07 à 12:36, Mario David a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Louis and all
>>>
>>> by now I am used to that this issue comes in waves to the lcg
>>> rollout from time to time.
>>>
>>> at LIP-Lisbon we have
>>> PPS-LIP fully slc4 for a long time, meaning
>>> lcg-CE (containing the site bdii)
>>> DPM
>>> dCache
>>> LFC
>>> all WN's
>>> UI
>>> MON
>>>
>>> the UI was one of the most problematic simply because of the
>>> glite-ui-config, which had to be python 2.2 (were 2.3 is on the
>>> distro of slc4)
>>> this was solved in the meantime, don't remember which patch
>>>
>>> DPM dCache and LFC and MON were rather straight forward after you
>>> add some packages from the slc3 (don't need to downgrade anything
>>> as far as I remember)
>>>
>>> the WN's you already have now
>>>
>>> for the lcg-CE (don't have experience with glite-CE) there was a
>>> problem with the torque wanting to have tcl/tk 8.3 , we forced it
>>> I never knew why torque depends = tcl/tk 8.3 and not a depends on
>>> >= 8.3
>>> so we have 8.4, and --forced the install of the torque
>>> we never experience any problems because of this
>>>
>>>
>>> finally the BDII (either site or top)
>>> it installs with no problem, the problem arises after you query the
>>> ldap and see wrong or missing information
>>> so, in slc3 you have openldap 2.0, while slc4 you have openldap 2.2
>>> a matter of downgrading from 2.2 to 2.0 is far from being feasible
>>> because a lot of rpm in slc4 depends on that guy
>>> so we recompiled ldap 2.0 in slc4, and included thing like the ldap
>>> lib of 2.2 on that rpm
>>>
>>> down to it, 2.2 is backward incompatible with 2.0, the ldapadd of
>>> 2.2 is more strict than 2.0, and the way the info plugins are done,
>>> you see errors of ldapadd on the ldap logs because of it.
>>>
>>> and that about a little of that story
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>> Mario David
>>>
>>> Quoting Louis Poncet <[log in to unmask]>:
>>>
>>>> We are nto certifying yet the SL4 othere services.
>>>> We didn't want to play the magician managing package create on
>>>> SL3 and
>>>> mixing them with what we have that already compile on SL4.
>>>>
>>>> So we are waiting for the properly compile package for SL4.
>>>>
>>>> (The BDII should work without any problem)
>>>>
>>>> But i am sorry to ask you to wait a bit more time to get the other
>>>> services on the SL4 Os.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Laird Louis Poncet
>>>> Where: Bat28-R-003 CERN
>>>> CH-1211 Geneve 23
>>>> Mail : [log in to unmask]
>>>> Phone: +41(0)227.674.231
>>>> LAL / IN2P3 / CNRS / CERN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 11 avr. 07 à 10:11, Nikolaos Vidiadakis a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> I am sorry if I miswrote what I wanted to ask. I only wanted to
>>>>> know if someone has installed other roles like glite_CE or
>>>>> glite_SE on SL44. Is it diffucult to be setup'd like this? I
>>>>> assume that an installation approach similar to the one
>>>>> followed for the WN's has to be followed (meaning installing
>>>>> packages from 30X repositories).
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/11/07, Louis Poncet <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> Good morning.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am sorry but i don't understand what you mean by out of the box.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lp
>>>>> --
>>>>> Laird Louis Poncet
>>>>> Where: Bat28-R-003 CERN
>>>>> CH-1211 Geneve 23
>>>>> Mail : [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Phone: +41(0)227.674.231
>>>>> LAL / IN2P3 / CNRS / CERN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 11 avr. 07 à 07:16, Nikolaos Vidiadakis a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning to all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just curious, all other roles like glite_CE or glite_SE or even
>>>>>> BDII can be installed "out of the box" on SL44? As a
>>>>>> procedure, is it similar to the one used for the WN's? Does
>>>>>> anyone have such a configuration?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/10/07, Vladimir Fekete < [log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need a help with installation of glite-WN_sl4compat on SLC4
>>>>>> (32bit).
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>>