Why is that every thread on this list ends up discussing Open Source?
Anyone any ideas on whether this problem reflects on the ability of Atos
Origin to manage C&B effectively, and what the consequences of the
cancelled/suspended contract are on imaging and ultrasound services in
NW?
MaryH
In message <[log in to unmask]>, "Dr Adrian Midgley (In the
office)" <[log in to unmask]> writes
>Michael Hendry wrote:
>> Adrian Midgley wrote:
>>> Colin Brown wrote:
>>>> Atos Origin do have the renewed "Infrastructure" support contract for
>>>> NHS Scotland, which includes running the Managed Servers that have
>>>> been trying to host GPASS and GPASS Clinical, so on that platform
>>>> they inevitably have control over access for 3rd party suppliers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Not to the source code. Not inevitably.
>(I should have said SNHS rather than SGPC, given where the decision is
>actually made.)
>
>> Because Atos Origin controls the Managed Servers, it also controls the
>> executables that are run on them.
>> With a local server you can install and run what you want, on a
>>managed
>> server you've got to take what Atos is gracious enough to allow you to use.
>
>1. Which doesn't in any way necessarily limit access to source code,
>and therefore has no relevance at all to who might inspect such source
>code for faults; write (or pay someone else to write) corrections; test
>such corrected executables on a test system (even in a single practice
>system with a local server, you test stuff...preferably not on the
>production server with the working copies of programs and data) debug
>them and present them (via CVS or in less easy ways) for merging into
>the production system. IE there is an absolute disconnect between
>control of (access to) source code and control of operational servers
>conflation of them is misleading, and much if it is carefully crafted
>disinformation from companies.
>
>2. Servers. It is highly likely that Atos has a (farm of servers
>constituting a cluster) server which runs only GPASS - in fact it is
>likely split ito three layers, a back end database, a layer running
>GPASS against them, and at the front either load-balancing or just
>possibly some caching to speed response. To add another application
>one adds a separate set of servers, likely enough to be in a completely
>different data centre. This is a description of the Internet if we
>take it to its logical end. The implication that everything has to
>reside on one server, and thus one authority must control everything in
>case they upset that one server is carefully crafted disinformation
>which regrettably continues to circulate. _On_ the Internet - see above.
>
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Mary Hawking
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