With courses being 'on the doorstep' in London I can imagine that the programme of training is well established in professional development programmes in the South East and can see why courses fill up at Ridgmount Street.
I do understand why it may be difficult to fill courses outside the South East, but don't think lack of booking equates to lack of demand. There is a need for the full programme, not just the odd one or two, in the right accessible venues. CILIP's current approach could be self-fulfilling: only a basic programme being offered, lack of attendance leading to fewer courses being offered, less attendance, even fewer courses offered.
CILIP need to do some basic research and perhaps market to librarians through regional groups of CoFHE or UC&R for example, and use these as levers (crowbars?) to encourage attendance and professional development.
Regards,
Gillian Rutherford
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From: A general Library and Information Science list for news and discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Trickey, Keith
Sent: 26 April 2007 13:13
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Subject: FW: CILIP Training courses - Outside London
-----Original Message-----
From: Trickey, Keith
Sent: 26 April 2007 11:10
To: 'Lindsay Wallace'; [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: CILIP Training courses - Outside London
Hello List
Having just come back to Liverpool after delivering two days training for Cilip in London - I was interested by the flurry of emails that have appeared requesting more courses outside London.
Having been a trainer for Cilip for a number of years, and having recently led a very small regional course and had another cancelled as there were no takers, I have a reasonably informed view.
Since working for Cilip as a trainer I have delivered courses as part of the Cilip training programme in: Liverpool, Manchester, Birmingham, Edinburgh, Cardiff, Swindon, Sheffield. (there may be more!)
I have delivered "in-house" programmes for Cilip in an even more exotic range of locations
The continuing problem that Cilip faces in attempting to deliver regional training is the uncertainty involved. The hard lesson over the years is that courses that recruit well in London (some with waiting lists) simply fail to recruit outside London.
Regular attempts are made to establish regional training sites - this year Birmingham and Sheffield are being used. However recruitment is variable and cancellation fees for premises not used if courses do not recruit can prove expensive.
Penny Simmonds and her team continue to place courses in the region, locating appropriate venues etc, etc, knowing that much of the effort involved will come to nothing as some of the courses will not recruit.
I think the basic regional problem is one of size - not enough people in a particular place are interested enough in a specific course to make that course in that place viable. However the same course, run in London will recruit.
Best wishes
Keith
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A general Library and Information Science list for news and
> discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lindsay
> Wallace
> Sent: 26 April 2007 10:43
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: CILIP Training course: WORKING WITH AND IN GROUPS, 5 & 6 June
> 2007, London
>
> Hi Gillian
>
> Totally with you on that one and we're not nearly so far north!
>
> I have suggested at least one to our regional committee (CoFHE NW)
> though to see if they could run it again locally - I've offered to
> host & arrange, so I suppose that is another option.
>
> Lindsay
> Lindsay Wallace
> Learning Resources Manager
> Mid Cheshire College
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A general Library and Information Science list for news and
> discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rutherford,
> Gillian
> Sent: 25 April 2007 15:07
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: CILIP Training course: WORKING WITH AND IN GROUPS, 5 & 6
> June 2007, London
>
> Hello all,
> The last 8 CILIP courses promoted on LIS-LINK were all in London. Can
> I just put out a plea from the regions, for CILIP to please consider
> offering a Northern location for its courses? Perhaps CILIP could
> arrange to deliver each of its courses at two or three venues annually
> around the country? Gillian Rutherford
> Head of Library Services
> Tyne Metropolitan College
> Wallsend
> Tyne and Wear
> NE28 9NJ
> 0191 229 5293
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A general Library and Information Science list for news and
> discussion. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cara Watson
> Sent: 12 April 2007 09:44
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: CILIP Training course: WORKING WITH AND IN GROUPS, 5 & 6 June
> 2007, London
>
>
> WORKING WITH AND IN GROUPS
> 5 & 6 June 2007, London
>
> Groups make up a large part of the workplace and can be specialist
> groups, working parties or just the informal groups that exist in any
> organisation. They differ from a normal departmental team in that a
> group tends to come together for a specific purpose but its members
> work independently. A group may have a leader but the roles and
> functions of the other group members may not be well defined.
> Managers, supervisors and trainers all have to work in or with groups.
> Many find themselves in, or leading groups without any training in or
> understanding of group dynamics or how to make the group work
> effectively.
>
> BENEFITS OF ATTENDING
> This course will provide an opportunity to experience several types of
> groups. The different approaches needed to both be a member of and to
> lead or work with these different types will also be reviewed.
>
> BY THE END OF THE EVENT PARTICIPANTS WILL HAVE:
> · discussed group theory and the different styles of group
> · looked at managing different types of group and leadership styles ·
> developed the skills to manage different types of groups · practised
> leading groups within the course
>
> WHO SHOULD ATTEND?
> Anyone involved in or leading/managing a group
>
> COURSE LEADER: PETER FIRKIN
> Peter has worked as a trainer for over 25 years. He has considerable
> experience in the development of training and learning and specialises
> in a number of areas including coaching, managing staff development,
> presentation skills and managing difficult situations.
>
> PROGRAMME
>
> Day 1
> 9:30 Registration
> 10:00 Welcome and introductions
> 10:15 A review of participants experiences of groups
> 11:30 Coffee
> 11:45 Process, task and the individual
> 12:30 Roles
> 1:00 Lunch
> 2:00 Leadership
> 3:30 Tea
> 3:45 Decision making in groups
> 4:45 Review
> 5:00 Close
>
> Day 2
> 9:30 Regroup and coffee
> 10:00 Review of day 1
> 10:15 Large group exercise
> 11:30 Coffee
> 11:45 Small group exercise
> 1:00 Lunch
> 1.45 Review of morning's learning
> 2:15 Groups in the workplace
> Issues and approaches
> 3:15 Tea
> 3:30 Questions, issues and problems
> 4:15 Action planning
> 4:30 Review and evaluation
> 4:45 Close
>
> PLACES ARE LIMITED TO: 15
>
> FEES:
> CILIP personal members: £380 plus VAT £446.50
> CILIP institutional members: £460 plus VAT £540.50
> Non members: £530 plus VAT £622.75
>
> HOW TO BOOK:
>
> TO MAKE A CONFIRMED BOOKING:
> Please print out and complete the booking form below and return it by
> fax to the Training & Development Department on 020 7255 0561, or post
> to: Training & Development, CILIP, 7 Ridgmount Street, London WC1E 7AE
>
> TO PROVISIONALLY BOOK A PLACE:
> To make a provisional booking simply telephone us on 020 7255 0560,
> textphone 020 7255 0505, email [log in to unmask] or visit this
> workshop's web page at
> http://www.cilip.org.uk/training/training/2007/md/workingingroups.htm
>
> (Provisional bookings will be held for three weeks. A confirmed
> booking must be received within this period or your place may be
> lost.)
>
> BOOKING FORM:
>
> I would like to book a confirmed place on WORKING WITH AND IN GROUPS,
> 5 & 6 June 2007, London
>
> Title: ____________ First name: _________________
>
> Surname: ____________________________________
>
> Job title: ____________________________________
>
> Organisation: ________________________________
>
> Address: ____________________________________
>
> Town:________________ Postcode:______________
>
> Email address: ________________________________
>
> Tel___________________ Fax: __________________
>
> Are you a CILIP member? YES __ NO __
>
> Personal* __ Institutional __ Student** __ Unwaged __
>
> * If you are a Personal Member, but your employer is paying, they will
> still be charged at Personal Member rate.
> ** The Student rate applies to personal payers only - but not if
> organisations are paying the fee
>
> CILIP membership no: __________________________
>
> Dietary/special requirements (sensory or physical)
>
> ___________________________________________
>
> PAYMENT OF FEE:
>
> Option 1: __ Please send an invoice
> (Your payment will be due within 30 days of the invoice date).
>
> Please give invoice name and address if different from above:
>
> Invoice Name________________________________________
>
> Invoice Address_______________________________________
>
> _____________________________________Postcode_________
>
>
> Option 2: __ I will be sending a cheque (payable to CILIP) for
> £_______________
>
> Please tick here if you require a receipt: __
>
> Option 3: __ Please debit £_________ to my credit card
>
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>
> Name of cardholder:_______________________
>
> Card no: __________________________________ Security code: _ _ _
>
> Address the card is registered to
> _____________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
> Expiry date: _________________________________
>
> Signature: ___________________________________
>
>
> PLEASE NOTE: cancellations received on the day will incur the full
> fee. If a cancellation is received in the seven working days prior to
> the event, 50% of the fee will be due.
>
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>
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>
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>
> Message sent by:
>
> Cara Watson
> Events Assistant, Training & Development
> CILIP
> 7 Ridgmount Street
> London
> WC1E 7AE
>
> Telephone: 020 7255 0560
> Fax: 020 7255 0561
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