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Re: Am I the only one to find this annoying - HSE

From:

Sarah Holton <[log in to unmask]>

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Occupational Health mailing list <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:20:16 +0000

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Don't trust Dame carol Black or Lord Hunt

They are the cause 8000-10000 docotrs losing their jobs and saving the  
government millions pounds.

Humm the governments nasty plan to create a subconsultant doctor grade  
- could not figure out there role in OH but clearly these will the  
case managers!!

A few years quick and cheap doctor training and all these cheap and  
undertrained junior doctors the government is training up to be "fit  
for purpose" for independant treatment centres. They openly admit this  
is to be more econimical for the private sector.

Bad for Doctors, Bad for Nurses

Just the same way that in surgery these docotrs will be fine for  
routine things and maybe will be cheap adn fit for purpose but given a  
complicated case will be out of there depth. Luckily unlike surgery it  
will not be life threatening!

We should all be pulling together to stop this NOW

Wake up everyone - 12000 juniors doctors marched the streets london  
last weekend and are seriously considering a stirke - unheard of in  
the last 50 years of medicine. Mainly cos 2-3 yearws ago when it began  
in medicine no-one stood up to say NO.

Don't wait for our speciality to be ruined in a few years time.

Make feeling know now by seniors in the field.

OHP's and ONHA's MUST SHOW UNITY AND ALL SAY NO

Sarah Holton


Quoting Sue Morley <[log in to unmask]>:

> Hi all
> Anyone who attended the RCN 2006 OH conference in Harrogate would   
> have seen the writing was on the wall for OH as we know it. Anne   
> spoke of the way that the NMC were setting the agenda for what was   
> included in the degree programmes for OH nurses whilst one of the   
> other speakers  was putting the case that OHN's "were not trained in  
>  case management" and that their "skills & expertise lie elsewhere"   
> He definitely saw the way forward was with "Case Managers" who were   
> not OHNs.
> I have to say I sat there thinking I am glad I am reaching the end   
> of my OH career because I don't like the way this is going.
> In one breath Dame Carole Black, Bill Gunyeon and Lord Hunt all gave  
>  eloquent speeches on the role that OH is to play in the  
> Government's  HWW strategy and in the next we have a speaker saying  
> that  sickness  absence can be better managed by Case managers who  
> are not OHNs.
> With in increasing number of companies using OH technicians for   
> spirometry, hearing tests etc where is the role of the OHN going. I   
> actually support the use of Technicians because it leaves the OHN   
> more time for case management and HP activities, but now it seems we  
>  are not even going to have that, the OT's will be doing it!
> We really must get behind our Educators supporting the inclusion of   
> case management and employment law as part of the OH curriculum if   
> not the role of the OH will change beyond all recognition. Should we  
>  all be training to be OT's I wonder?
> Sue
>  _____
> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]]   
> On Behalf Of Lynda SpearSent: 22 March 2007 20:15To:   
> [log in to unmask]: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Am I the only one  
>  to find this annoying - HSE
>
> Hi all
>
>
>
>  by accident I found a whole page dedicated to occupational   
> therapists on the HSE website and the good work they do re sickness   
> absence management - no specific issues here but when
>
>
>
> I put in OH nurse, surprisingly or not all that came up were   
> associated documents mentioning OHN nurses - havent rechecked or   
> tried OH nursing but suspect the same result.
>
>
>
> HAs anyone previously campaigned for an OHN page on the HSE website?  
>   If not shall we?
>
>
>
> I really think we should - nothing major but with the age of   
> "partnership" working and ?health in health and safety i feel the   
> HSE ignores OHN contribution as do many other parties - I know there  
>  are lots who do not - lets jump up and down and demonstrate all our  
>  inflencing skills!
>
>
>
> This is not a bash at OT's so no defence pleas are necesary.
>
>
>
> Who is with me? Or has other ideas for influencing the political   
> agenda - RCN Wales got Plaid Cymru to include "a requirement for   
> employers to make provision of OH services" in their manesfesto for   
> Mays elections - a significant step we beleive - we can make a   
> difference
>
>
>
> REgards
>
>
>
> Lynda
>
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>
> Lynda
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