Isabel,
Agreed, that cultural evolution of the objectivity "meme" - the
example of illusion of men as distinct objects from women is but one
sexist-agenda consequence amongst many.
"linear language stuck in time" has a nice ring to it.
We have to help it evolve.
Ian
On 3/23/07, bob Macintosh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> For me the point has quite a great deal to do with four hundred years or
> more of patriarchy, a linear language stuck in time, with little or no
> ambiguity or hollowness, created by an illusion of separateness. And a
> voice that includes no others and no layers of meaning.
>
> isabel.
>
>
>
> http://bobtwice.blogspot.com/
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/meetingpool
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ian glendinning" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [FRIENDSOFWISDOM-D] Fw: The Trap: Whatever Happened to out
> Dreams of Freedom?
>
>
> > Hi Isabel, Tom,
> >
> > I very nearly asked the same question last night, but hoped Alan might
> > respond first, as he now has.
> >
> > Tom what exactly is your point ?
> >
> > If you believe "getting to the point" is something we should strive
> > for, then you have sorely missed the point - the very point of Alan's
> > words in fact ... there are no "points" standing in isolation ....
> >
> > if we (and poets like Alan) don't play with your "approved" language,
> > we will never find the new wisdom entangled within it. We are doomed
> > to see only facts and old knowledge.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> > On 3/23/07, bob Macintosh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> What exactly is the point? Very patriarchal !!
> >>
> >> Isabel.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://bobtwice.blogspot.com/
> >> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/meetingpool
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Tom Milner-Gulland" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:25 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [FRIENDSOFWISDOM-D] Fw: The Trap: Whatever Happened to out
> >> Dreams of Freedom?
> >>
> >>
> >> I kind of guessed that but you should know that, if you don't mind me
> >> saying, that style of writing really is 'out', this day and age, in
> >> philosophy. Now it's a question of getting straight to the point without
> >> any
> >> tangled or obscure phrasing.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >
>
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