Khem Caigan doth schreibble
>>
>>> Like I said in my essay, it doesn't
>>> matter where the Constellation of
>>> Aries wanders off to.<<
And Caroline Tully doth reply:
>
> I think it does, because then Astrology is based on nothing.
No, Western Astrology is based on
the movement of the Sun through the
Day and the Year, as viewed by an
Observer that has divided her local
Horizon into Four-times-Three sections,
with reference to the intersection
of the Equator and the Ecliptic.
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> Yes, but the constellation of Aries is a 'real' thing, even if its only
> so from our geocentric viewpoint (because the stars are not really a
> "group" as such in space).
<SNIPS>
The Constellations are not the same
thing as the Signs. They are different
entities; it is rather like confusing
a Clef with a Stave.
The analogy is apt, since we are talking
about Permutations of Tone or Tension
distributed across 360 degrees, further
modified by the Harmonic Relations of
the Seven Planets as they move around
the Circle.
The Signs are a series of 12 thirty
degree arcs hinged upon the points
of the Vernal and Autumnal Equinoces,
with six of these arcs being above the
local Horizon and six beneath it at
any one moment.
And the whole point of this exercise is
to accurately track the Sun's progress
throughout the Day and the Year, using
this movement to generate further arbitrary
and useful units of measure such as seconds,
minutes, degrees and hours.
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> . . .And equinoxes are real, again from a
> geocentric viewpoint, being when the sun crosses the celestial equator,
> as it appears to go northwards in Aries and southwards in Libra.
<SNIPS>
And proceeding from this same viewpoint,
the Houses and Signs are 'real' as well,
that is, pragmatically useful entities,
being the Twelve Periods or Regions
traversed by our primary zeitgeber,
the Sun, throughout the Day and the
Year.
Cors in Manu Domine,
~ Khem Caigan
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