You sly devil, Mark.
--- Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> In fact, they want to pull carts. The heavier the
> weight the more
> likely they are to volunteer.
>
>
> At 08:42 AM 3/30/2007, you wrote:
> >I think so, but I'm not certain. I have it in mind
> that certain kinds of
> >horses are selected to pull carts because they are
> especially well suited to
> >the task.
> >
> >P
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Joseph Duemer
> > > Sent: 30 March 2007 13:22
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: off of
> > >
> > > Linguistically, isn't the oral the horse & the
> literate the cart?
> > >
> > > jd
> > >
> > > On 3/30/07, Peter Cudmore
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I remembered wincing when, knowing Laurie to
> be a Brit, he
> > > uttered 'my
> > > > bad'
> > > > in one episode of House. Most of the time he
> just speaks 'good'
> > > > English with a manufactured drawl, and does it
> very well. 'My bad'
> > > > irks me because it leaves so much to the
> second party to
> > > fill in. My
> > > > bad what? As with formulations such as 'I was,
> like,
> > > whatever', what
> > > > seems lazy and colloquial is actually quite
> demanding (it
> > > seems to me)
> > > > because you need to know what would have been
> said if the
> > > speaker had
> > > > needed to lay out the whole story in full. The
> second party has to
> > > > insert the substitution in real time.
> > > >
> > > > The thing with 'off of' seems to be the
> intrusion of the
> > > oral into the
> > > > forms of the literate. We have become so
> accustomed to the latter
> > > > structuring the former that we sometimes
> forget which is
> > > the cart and
> > > > which the horse.
> > > >
> > > > P
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics
> > > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of MC Ward
> > > > > Sent: 30 March 2007 02:15
> > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > Subject: Re: off of
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone else watch the tv series
> "House"? I was astonished to
> > > > > read recently that the show's star, Hugh
> Laurie, is a
> > > British actor
> > > > > who lives in London with his wife and 3
> children. Every other
> > > > > weekend he flies to London to see them. I
> would never
> > > have guessed
> > > > > he was British since he "speaks American,"
> as he puts it,
> > > so well.
> > > > > It's the hardest part of the job for him,
> compared to,
> > > say, learning
> > > > > his lines for each weekly episode. Only
> after he's gotten
> > > his lines
> > > > > down can he concentrate on "translating"
> them into "American."
> > > > >
> > > > > If you don't know "House," try to catch an
> episode.
> > > > > It's a wonderful show, especially thanks to
> Laurie, who's
> > > obviously
> > > > > British-trained in acting and turns in a
> spectacular physical
> > > > > performance week after week (Sat. night at
> 11:00).
> > > > >
> > > > > Candice
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
>
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Joseph Duemer
> > > Professor of Humanities
> > > Clarkson University
> > > [sharpsand.net]
> > >
>
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