This seems to me a "deliberate falsehood"
unluckily this is the net, the spirit, the idea behind it mudded by usual
vandals. But what could we hope for?
I support what Joseph Duemer said before, log in and correct whenever
you notice something wrong, and if you wish poetry to appear, write about
it. No personal glory this time... sorry for your vanity.
On 2/25/07, TheOldMole <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> A History Department Bans Citing Wikipedia as a Research Source
> By NOAM COHEN
> When half a dozen students in Neil Waters's Japanese history class at
> Middlebury College asserted on exams that the Jesuits supported the
> Shimabara Rebellion in 17th-century Japan, he knew something was wrong.
> The
> Jesuits were in "no position to aid a revolution," he said; the few of
> them
> in Japan were in hiding.
>
> He figured out the problem soon enough. The obscure, though incorrect,
> information was from Wikipedia, the collaborative online encyclopedia, and
> the students had picked it up cramming for his exam.
>
> Dr. Waters and other professors in the history department had begun
> noticing
> about a year ago that students were citing Wikipedia as a source in their
> papers. When confronted, many would say that their high school teachers
> had
> allowed the practice.
>
> But the errors on the Japanese history test last semester were the last
> straw. At Dr. Waters's urging, the Middlebury history department notified
> its students this month that Wikipedia could not be cited in papers or
> exams, and that students could not "point to Wikipedia or any similar
> source
> that may appear in the future to escape the consequences of errors."
>
> With the move, Middlebury, in Vermont, jumped into a growing debate within
> journalism, the law and academia over what respect, if any, to give
> Wikipedia articles, written by hundreds of volunteers and subject to
> mistakes and sometimes deliberate falsehoods. Wikipedia itself has
> restricted the editing of some subjects, mostly because of repeated
> vandalism or disputes over what should be said.
>
> Although Middlebury's history department has banned Wikipedia in
> citations,
> it has not banned its use. Don Wyatt, the chairman of the department, said
> a
> total ban on Wikipedia would have been impractical, not to mention
> close-minded, because Wikipedia is simply too handy to expect students
> never
> to consult it.
>
> At Middlebury, a discussion about the new policy is scheduled on campus on
> Monday, with speakers poised to defend and criticize using the site in
> research.
>
> Jimmy Wales, the co-founder of Wikipedia and chairman emeritus of its
> foundation, said of the Middlebury policy, "I don't consider it as a
> negative thing at all."
>
> He continued: "Basically, they are recommending exactly what we suggested
> -
> students shouldn't be citing encyclopedias. I would hope they wouldn't be
> citing Encyclopaedia Britannica, either.
>
>
>
> From the NY Times. And last night, I happened to check the Wikipedia entry
> on the poker player Daniel Negreanu. In the first paragraph of the essay,
> we
> are informed that in his early days in Las Vegas, Negreanu made a living
> by
> giving blow jobs on the strip for $15. This morning, that's gone.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "TheOldMole" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Wikipedia
>
>
> > If you don't, let me know. I have his book on singers, and would be glad
> > to scan and send you something.
> >
> > And RIP to that great jazz writer, who died a couple of weeks ago.
> >
> > Three other wonderful books on jazz. But Beautiful, by Geoff Dyer. Dyer
> > started out to write a series of critical biographies, and they all
> > somehow turned into lyrical improvisations. And the two best jazz
> novels,
> > The Horn by John Clellon Holmes and The Bear Comes Home, by Rafi Zabor.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joseph Duemer" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 4:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: Wikipedia
> >
> >
> >> Doug, thanks for reminding me of those. I think I have a couple in an
> >> anthology that I might be able to copy for my students.
> >>
> >> jd
> >>
> >> On 2/23/07, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The other writing where I've felt that it truly caught something of
> >>> what it would have meant to be there hearing it, was in the late
> >>> Whitney Balliett's jazz columns (mostly in The New Yorker).
> >>>
> >>> Great stuff.
> >>>
> >>> Doug
> >>> On 22-Feb-07, at 1:24 PM, Joseph Duemer wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > I had one student, who is a
> >>> > musician, say he had never heared / seen the actual playing of music
> >>> > described more truly than in the last few pages of the story.
> >>> Douglas Barbour
> >>> 11655 - 72 Avenue NW
> >>> Edmonton Ab T6G 0B9
> >>> (780) 436 3320
> >>> http://www.ualberta.ca/~dbarbour/
> >>>
> >>> Latest book: Continuations (with Sheila E Murphy)
> >>> http://www.uap.ualberta.ca/UAP.asp?LID=41&bookID=664
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Some speak of a return to nature --
> >>> I wonder where they could have been?
> >>>
> >>> Frederick Sommer
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Joseph Duemer
> >> Professor of Humanities
> >> Clarkson University
> >> [sharpsand.net]
> >>
> >
>
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