How to use your green thumb fruitfully is a fine
metaphor for "growing" a poem. I love that stage when
we let our hands and minds get down and dirty with the
poem.
Candice
[D]id that star intrude?
(Douglas Barbour & Sheila E. Murphy)
--- Roger Day <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I think a snap should be approached with a little
> more generosity of spirit,
> as if you were approaching someone's initial drafts.
> Treat it like a lamb, a
> sapling or young child. Something like that may be
> perfect - and some may
> well have been worked on for a long time already -
> then it may well be
> treated as a full grown poem, but sometimes you can
> see the youthful
> problems it has, and you need to be careful in
> watering it or pushing it in
> a more fruitful direction. Fragile growths need
> nurturing.
>
> Roger
>
> On 2/16/07, kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > I was thinking about the 'snap/poem' distinction
> the other day actually, &
> > how to respond to each in critique. I asked
> myself, "shouldn't each be
> > treated with equal criticality: a snap so that it
> would have a headstart
> at
> > becoming a full (good) poem, a poem so that it
> could shape itself up some
> > more."
> >
> > your 'emphasis' is interesting in another way: why
> should there be a need
> to
> > defend the person whose work is being critiqued?
> the recipient, after all,
> > is not the _writer_ but the _writing_! writing can
> never feel offended, &
> a
> > writer (perhaps) never should.
> >
> > KS
> >
> > On 16/02/07, andrew burke <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, Kasper, I disagree. The tone was quiet and
> built a kind of diurnal
> > > desperation, although I will agree with you on
> the end cliches,
> > > particularly
> > > the 'blood/stone' one.
> > >
> > > And I would also like to emphasise that it is a
> 'snap', not a finished
> > > poem
> > > in the poet's eyes.
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > > On 16/02/07, kasper salonen <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I found this prosaic, in its meaning of
> 'bland'. the narration seems
> > > > to think it's saying more than it really is;
> as a narrational piece,
> > > > this was outright boring for me. maybe it's
> the fact that the tone is
> > > > so flat. the two clichés at the end don't help
> the poem's feeling
> > > > either; there seems little or no justification
> (reference) for them.
> > > > the political presense in the poem was mute,
> unprovoking.
> > > > the sun/snow image was nice though, & there
> are bits that could be
> > > > rehabilitated & sent back into the world.
> > > >
> > > > KS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> My Stuff: http://www.badstep.net/
> "Patriotism is a virtue of the vicious." Oscar Wilde
>
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