I remember back in the dim dim past, when I was at Iowa, there was a
shibboleth about using your name in a poem. Obviously, this was way before
the traditional ghazal gained a toehold in English language poetry.
----- Original Message -----
From: "kasper salonen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: Early Snap - Famous
> not malicious; significantly wry maybe? ;) I took no offense, & I'm
> not quite sure what Candice was upset about; sure, Tad (who I didn't
> realise was TheOldMole, was confused!) could have initiated a
> discussion on why or why not non-subtle metapoetry is a comfortable
> phenomenon to people -- but so could I. if that was a defense, Candice
> ["Caddy. Caddy. Caddy." -- Faulkner]*, thank you in any case.
>
>
> *heh
> KS
>
> On 16/02/07, TheOldMole <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Thank you, Alison -- I didn't mean it in any malicious way -- but the
>> responsibility is still mine.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alison Croggon" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 7:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: Early Snap - Famous
>>
>>
>> > Well, I should have kept my own mouth shut.
>> >
>> > For my part, I honestly didn't think Tad's posting of the poem to be
>> > malicious, and I'm sorry it's been taken that way.
>> >
>> > On 2/16/07, TheOldMole <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >> I do apologize. There are lots and lots and lots of canonical poems
>> >> that
>> >> I
>> >> wouldn't recognize -- probably more for me than most of the people on
>> >> this
>> >> list.
>> >>
>> >> The only thing I can say is that I wasn't attempting to justify
>> >> anything,
>> >> because when I posted my second note, I hadn't realized that people
>> >> had
>> >> critiqued Auden (and well, I thought). I should have posted this
>> >> apology
>> >> sooner.
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "MC Ward" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:30 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: Early Snap - Famous
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Alison,
>> >> >
>> >> > Are you satisfied by Tad's "justification" of what he
>> >> > did? Myself, I feel that he should at least apologize
>> >> > to the list in general--and Anny and Kasper in
>> >> > particular--for making fools of us/them, if nothing
>> >> > else.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm very upset by this, and I wonder what Anny and Joe
>> >> > think.
>> >> >
>> >> > Candice
>> >> >
>> >> > Let the water wash over your face
>> >> > I'll send it in waves
>> >> > Just to see you perform the great escape
>> >> > (Moby)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --- Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I expect that Moley here didn't realise that people
>> >> >> wouldn't recognise
>> >> >> that poem!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And I am, I confess, more than a little surprised.
>> >> >> Surely one of
>> >> >> Auden's best known? And that line, "poetry makes
>> >> >> nothing happen", one
>> >> >> of his most quoted? Certainly one of my favourites
>> >> >> of all time. (I'm
>> >> >> sure that Wystan would appreciate the workshopping;
>> >> >> that last stanza
>> >> >> is in my eyes pretty incredible...)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> All best
>> >> >>
>> >> >> A
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Editor, Masthead: http://www.masthead.net.au
>> >> >> Blog: http://theatrenotes.blogspot.com
>> >> >> Home page: http://www.alisoncroggon.com
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________________
>> >> > Don't pick lemons.
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>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Editor, Masthead: http://www.masthead.net.au
>> > Blog: http://theatrenotes.blogspot.com
>> > Home page: http://www.alisoncroggon.com
>> >
>>
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