> Hi,
>
> Tim Berners-Lee's thoughts are also interesting.
> Good summary at
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060901-7650.html
>
> I'm with Tim on this one. I cringe every time I hear the
> phrase "Web 2.0"
Actually. I'm not sure you're with Tim, at all. Tim was arguing that the
read/write Web's approach, based on technologies such as blogs and wikis and
user-generated content, is an implementation of his original vision of the
Web. So if you're with Tim, you will welcome the opportunity which Web 2.0
technologies provide. Tim is, understandably, annoyed that his vision for
the Web has hijacked by the software development community and large
organisations which resulted in primarily a read-only Web.
You'll also notice that "has nothing but good things to say about AJAX" - so
those nice, easy to use Web 2.0 services which are based on AJAX can also
be a good think, with W3C working of guidelines to maximise the
accessibility os such interfaces - see
http://www.w3.org/TR/aria-roadmap/
>
> Meanwhile, Internet Explorer 7 still comes nowhere near close
> to rendering CSS properly
I agree - encourage organisations to move to a browser with better support
for standards.
> Accessibility is more than just presenting information in a
> way that's accessible to people with impairments. It's also
> about presenting information in a manner that's accessible to
> machines (e.g., Google's indexing bot - almost certainly your
> most important user).
I agree. BTW Technorati is a great search engine for the blogosphere (which
is much more integrated with search engines than Google, as pingbacks will
notify services automatically when new content is created). As an example,
see:
http://www.technorati.com/search/mcg
> A better option would be to continue to work on getting the
> basics right - campaign for better browsers (and / or use
> alternatives), create, support and stick to standards and use
> validators as well as manual checks to maximise content
> accessibility for people and machines.
I would agree with all of this, if you replace "A better option ... " with
"A complementary approach ...".
Brian
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> as it seems to be nothing more than a marketing buzzword if
> anyone can actually define what it means. We've had SGML
> since 1980, XML since 1998 and of course all the effort
> (arguably in the face of some market
> resistance) the W3C / IETF and others have put into the DOM,
> SVG, SMIL, XML and friends, Atom etc. specifications has
> always been aimed at creating a semantic web that's write as
> well as read.
>
> Meanwhile, Internet Explorer 7 still comes nowhere near close
> to rendering CSS properly (try the Acid2 test - Opera passes,
> Firefox comes close), ECMAScript doesn't have an officially
> registered MIME-type and websites are littered with basic
> coding errors such as, e.g., Birmingham Stories (which I
> mention as it's previously been the subject of an MCG
> presentation) having 607 validation errors on the home-page.
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.birminghams
tories.co.uk%2F
>
> Accessibility is more than just presenting information in a
> way that's accessible to people with impairments. It's also
> about presenting information in a manner that's accessible to
> machines (e.g., Google's indexing bot - almost certainly your
> most important user).
>
> I fear that if we get caught up in the hype, we risk an
> expensive and inefficient waste of resources and may get
> side-tracked into a "blog everything" mentality that will
> nicely line the pockets of former "Flash monkeys" but do
> little else to improve the fundamental quality of the web.
> Regards,
>
> James
>
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Kostas Arvanitis wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:26:31 +0000
> > From: Kostas Arvanitis <[log in to unmask]>
> > Reply-To: Museums Computer Group <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [MCG] Quick Introduction to Web 2.0
> >
> > This response is also very interesting!
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAVmB5dKZZ8&eurl=
> >
> > Kostas.
> >
> >
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Dr. Konstantinos Arvanitis
> > Lecturer in Museology
> > Centre for Museology
> > School of Arts Histories and Cultures
> > Humanities Bridgeford Street
> > The University of Manchester
> > Oxford Road
> > Manchester M13 9PL
> > Tel.: +44 161 2753018
> > http://www.manchester.ac.uk/museology/
> > http://digitalheritage.wordpress.com/
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of
> > Tony Gill
> > Sent: 14 February 2007 21:41
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Quick Introduction to Web 2.0
> >
> > This is one of the best quick introductions to Web 2.0 that
> I've seen:
> >
> >
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE>http://www.youtube.com/wat
> > ch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE
> >
> > (apart from the music, which is terrible).
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > T.
> >
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