MY apologies if a previous message from me was too political. It was not my
intention to use this list to propound political views. I appreciated that
some of the statements I made would be politically controversial, and was
merely seeking to point out that some recent decisions were out of line with
the view of Britishness that I was suggesting.
Another aspect of that was toleration. I fully accept the right of any one
else to disagree with what I said.
I should perhaps also have mentioned Habeas Corpus, and 'innocent until
proved guilty' as aspects of Britishness. Again, I lament that at least the
former has had to be eroded in recent times, but accept that extraordinary
measures are necessary in these times to restrain the activities of those
suspected of undermining what we hold dear. That too is a political
comment, and perhaps out of order.
I fear that the real problem is that 'Britishness' is partly a political
issue.
Peter King
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-----Original Message-----
From: From: Local-History list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf Of Postles, D.A.
Sent: 01 February 2007 19:30
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [LOCAL-HISTORY] Britishness
Whether we agree or not, no politics, please:
>Sadly this Government dose
>not seem to recognise this. Under funded, underpaid and doing a very
>difficult job and constantly under strength.
It may be difficult to address the issue of Britishness without comment
about current politics, but let's try - if only to save the list harmless
and avoid overt argument about matters with which the list is not strictly
concerned.
Sorry to be a pain,
Dave
[as list administrator]
-----Original Message-----
From: From: Local-History list on behalf of Maxwell, Paul
Sent: Thu 2/1/2007 7:39 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LOCAL-HISTORY] Britishness
Yes The British Tommy! Respected renown throughout the world for his
steadfastness fairness and professionalism. Sadly this Government dose
not seem to recognise this. Under funded, underpaid and doing a very
difficult job and constantly under strength. This to me is Britishness,
our Military.
-----Original Message-----
From: From: Local-History list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of GATLEY David A
Sent: 29 January 2007 13:52
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Britishness
Two Things: -
Concept of Britain as a distinct nation as opposed to seven constituent
parts (that is the four home nations along with the Isle of Man and
Channel Islands)
Introduction of foreign foods into the British diet - curry which I
hate, pizzas, etc..
David
-----Original Message-----
From: From: Local-History list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Frank Clement-Lorford
Sent: 29 January 2007 11:26
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Britishness
Hi, I know some will accuse me of misuse of this group and to those I
apologise. I always thought this group was an ideal mix of academic to
businessperson and ideal to gather opinions from.
I have to present a paper titled: ''The Future of the Nation State'. I
thought I would look into Britishness and plot any change in the
thinking of major political parties. I do understand that essentially
Britishness is an individual opinion. Therefore I wonder if I could ask
(save me standing outside of Tesco's). Can you name two things that you
feel is Britishness, has that changed in the last 20 years. Also is
there one image that instantly promotes Britishness to you
I do appreciate any help you can offer on this matter and if you feel,
you have anything to add to the question, I would be grateful, If you
want to mail me direct please do so, all your answers will be very
helpful. Again apologies to those that feel this is not the right
question for this group.
Regards
Frank
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