Note that the number has passed 1,000,000

Signatures: 1,066,829

The petition is on the 10 Downing St
>         >website.  http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/ 
>         >

-----Original Message-----
From: GP-UK [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dr Peter von Kaehne
Sent: 08 February 2007 16:11
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Car tracking - from EMIS EUG --- response for Pork

There are perfectly easy, cheap(in terms of related government spend)
and non-intrusive ways of making car driving unattractive

fuel tax hikes, car tax dependent on consumption/exhaust gases and
congestion charges

There are also great and cheap ways of making cycling and walking
attractive:

Create cycle paths in all inner cities, make it painful and dear to park
on them and create + enforce cyclists and pedestrians' preferential
right of way. At the moment I get run over even by police cars if I as a
pedestrian make use of my right of way when they want to cross my path.

Finally create adequate P&R facilities and create plenty of adequate and
securely lockable cycle sheds in inner cities.

I am still amazed that I felt perfectly safe as a student to cross inner
city Frankfurt/Main in a bicycle during rush hour, but feel afraid today
even of Glasgow's side streets, let alone any main streets.

Instead of all this the government goes for the one single option which
will a) create enormous implementation costs without any infrastructure
gain and b) create a privacy nightmare for all drivers, but have no
benefit whatsoever for cyclists or pedestrians.

Peter










On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 12:09 +0000, John Clegg wrote:
> That's what you believe they should do. The trouble is they have a
> democratic right to see things differently from you, however stupid
> that makes them!
> 
> On 08/02/07, Pork <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>         In message <[log in to unmask]>,
>         Julian
>         Bradley <[log in to unmask]> writes
>         >If you drive a car, or care about freedom from Government
>         intrusion,
>         >consider this.
>         >
>         >Sarah Kennedy was on about this proposed car tax scheme on
>         the radio
>         >apparently there is only one month left to register your
>         objection to 
>         >the 'Pay as you go' road tax.
>         >
>         >The petition is on the 10 Downing St
>         >website.  http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax/
>         >
>         >Once you've given your details (you don't have to give your
>         full 
>         >address, just house number and postcode will do), they will
>         send you
>         >an email with a link in it. Once you click on that link,
>         you'll have
>         >signed the petition.
>         >
>         >The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean
>         you 
>         >having to purchase a tracking device for your car and paying
>         a
>         >monthly bill to use it.  The tracking device will cost about
>         UKP200
>         >and in a recent study by the BBC, the lowest monthly bill was
>         UKP28
>         >for a rural florist and UKP194 for a delivery driver.  A non
>         working
>         >mother who used the car to take the kids to school
>         paid  UKP86 in one month.
>         
>         Can she not walk then? Most of the problem locally with
>         traffic is 
>         mothers who live within a mile of school driving their child
>         to school
>         rather than walking. I be they then pay a fortune to go to the
>         gym
>         afterwards. We need to do something to encourage people to
>         think twice
>         before using the car and to encourage children to think their
>         legs
>         aren't just there so that their trousers hang properly. I
>         don't like the
>         idea of invasion of my privacy or having to buy the thing used
>         to charge 
>         me (!) but what else can be done to get people walking more
>         and using
>         the car less?
>         >
>         >On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be
>         >tracked.  Somebody will know where you are at all times.  If
>         you care 
>         >about our freedom follow the link above.
>         >
>         >NB There are now over 750,000 signatories, and given how many
>         people
>         >won't have heard of the petition this is incredible.  It
>         would
>         >nonetheless be good to see >2 million. 
>         >
>         >Julian
>         >
>         
>         --
>         Pork
> 


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