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Subject:

Re: Not accessible or not adaptable.

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"Paul Walsh, Segala" <[log in to unmask]>

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DCMI Accessibility Community <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 7 Feb 2007 13:31:52 -0000

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From: DCMI Accessibility Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Emmanuelle Gutiérrez 

[PW] Hi Emmanuelle <smile>

I was looking in the "tripes" of the extension and it seems that the
extension look for "labels" [1] But these labels can be about a lot of
things, not exactly about accessibility. For example, if you use the
extension and search for "self-labelled sites" the ICRA site is selflabeled,
but the label is about the type of contents, not about the accessibility of
these contents.

[PW] The extension reads Content Labels (or at least, in a rough sense given
the alpha state it's in). Content Labels are files which contain metadata.
Some people say it's not metadata but I'm not going to get into that debate.
They can be used to make conformance claims about anything, so you are
correct. That is, conformance claims to Web accessibility, child protection,
mobileOK, privacy, e-commerce and so on. They can even be used to
demonstrate a commitment and conformance to codes of conduct. For example, a
code for blogs.

So, if you have a specific requirement regarding accessibility claims in
Spain, we can help you put together a Content Label. It's incredibly easy to
do. In fact, we are advising various organisations on how to create Content
Labels (machine-readable trustmarks) for codes of conduct that we haven't
even thought of.

We've worked quite closely with ICRA for the past couple of years. In fact,
we were co-editor of the final report for the Web Content Label Incubator
project. [1] We also helped to put the Charter together.

Long time ago there where a discussion about the way to LINK to a rdf report
about accessibility and, I remember, and we suggest and use it, that the
proposition was:

[PW] What exactly, do you mean by report? If you mean something that makes a
claim about conformance, then our Content Label can be used. As I said
above, we can create a new one for you if you wish. That's the great thing
about it, what's appropriate in Spain is not necessarily appropriate in the
UK or US. Ultimately, preferences at the browser level that use this group's
guidelines for user profiles will be the most powerful for accessibility
specifically. We will always need conformance claims to Section 508 etc.
though.

FYI Content Labels (now known as POWDER) will be proposed as a replacement
for PICS when the new W3C Charter is given the green light. PICS is what IE
currently uses for filtering content. It's an old W3C recommendation that
doesn't work well.

<link rel="accessibility"
href="http://www.sidar.org/informes/rdf/sidar1.rdf" title="Informe del grado
de cumplimiento de las directrices de accesibilidad."  />

Maybe this is wrong and we need do it as you link your segala label:

[PW] Well, we've create a link which we'd like to think can be used as a
standard method. To be honest, I'd have to get someone on my team to see
what the differences are.

I think that we need an agreement or guidelines about it. ¿What is the best
or what must be the way to link to an accessibility report?.

[PW] Agreed. We will put ours up on contentlabel.org shortly so people can
see it.

The contenlabel.org looks interesting. I think that the 3 party
certification can be good, but the problem is that in Spain there are some
enterprises and institutions labelling not so accessibles resources :-( And
I think that the auto-certification can be so good as the 3 party
ceretification.

[PW] I agree that there is a need for self-regulation. However, it doesn't
work well in my opinion. Take a look at the W3C logos for WCAG conformance
claims. They're pretty worthless in my opinion. Then again, some people will
probably think the Segala Trustmark is just as worthless. It's about giving
users a choice.

ICRA has realised that self-labelling doesn't work well. This is why they
asked if Segala would provide a Segala-verified label to increase the trust
in claims being made. 

We are working in a social-network system for the trust in the accessibility
review.

There are a lot of things to talk about ;-)


[PW] Absolutely.

I apologise for ranting about non-accessibility related stuff. But I do
think that by building the ecosystem to encourage more Semantic data to be
used, we increase our chances of getting more sites adjusted for
accessibility.

There are already a few Labelling providers [2]

If you create a label today the extension will automatically pick it up as
long as you follow the same guidelines as set out by the incubator project.

[PW] [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/wcl/Overview.html 
[2] http://www.quatro-project.org/ContentProviders.htm 
 

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