Liddy,
You are very kind. But the reality is that, for me is very difficult to
express my ideas in English, and I fear not to be able to do it in the
suitable tone.
I am sure that there are other people with greater capacity to transmit this
group which is the state-of-the-art of the work on metadata in Latin
America. Without going more far, Charles seems the suitable person.
In any case, I will try to inform here on what it seems of interest for the
group.
Best regards,
Emmanuelle
-----Mensaje original-----
De: DCMI Accessibility Community [mailto:[log in to unmask]] En
nombre de Liddy Nevile
Enviado el: viernes, 09 de febrero de 2007 1:38
Para: [log in to unmask]
Asunto: Re: Not accessible or not adaptable.
Emmanuelle - your English is very impressive - I just wanted to know exactly
what you meant because I think you had a point that the others had not made.
Now, I think you are saying, others have made those points.
But if there is anything else you want to say, please tell us. Your
experience is very valuable to this community.
I suspect, in addition, that you can tell us a bit about what others in the
huge Spanish-speaking world are thinking. We know there is a lot going on
but it is often very hard for those of us who don't speak Spanish to know
what it is. (I say this particularly because the DCMI Conference in Mexico
at last introduced us to some of the people doing interesting metadata work
in South America, for instance.)
Liddy
On 09/02/2007, at 11:17 AM, Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo wrote:
>
> Hi Liddy,
>
> Please, excuseme for my poor English. I will try to use a more "plain"
> or better English.
>
> I have only tried to say what Lisa, Charles and William have explained
> already.
>
> All the best,
> Emmanuelle
>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: DCMI Accessibility Community [mailto:DC-
> [log in to unmask]] En nombre de Liddy Nevile Enviado el:
> jueves, 08 de febrero de 2007 2:46
> Para: [log in to unmask]
> Asunto: Re: Not accessible or not adaptable.
>
> Emmanuelle - please say this again - I can't quite get your
> meaning....
>
> and my Spanish is very poor!
>
> Liddy
>
> On 08/02/2007, at 11:01 AM, Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Liddy,
>>
>> Yes, I know all the documents and I'm in this list from long time
>> ago.
>> These metadata terms are for describe the elements of the content and
>> are very important (or will be very important).
>>
>> Maybe this is not the right site to ask what I asked. But is the
>> "dc-accessibility" and even if the work, in this moment, is oriented
>> to other end, I think that some things need to be araised in this
>> fora.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Emmanuelle
>>
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: DCMI Accessibility Community [mailto:DC-
>> [log in to unmask]] En nombre de Liddy Nevile Enviado el:
>> miércoles, 07 de febrero de 2007 21:24
>> Para: [log in to unmask]
>> Asunto: Re: Not accessible or not adaptable.
>>
>> Emmanuelle
>> have you been able to read the metadata terms we are working on -
>> they reflect the specs in WCAG but in a metadata way and give much
>> more flexibility ... there is a fairly comprehensive set and they are
>> about to become an ISO standard at least for education....
>>
>> The DC conformsTo etc simply did not give us enough useful
>> information about the resource..so we have added a few qualifiers and
>> one new term
>>
>> Liddy
>>
>> On 07/02/2007, at 11:21 PM, Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Liddy,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your quickly response.
>>>
>>> Well, if there are not such thing as an "accessible" resource, my
>>> life don't have sense <smile> Because I'm working from 1996 about
>>> the accessibility in the software and the Web. But I understand what
>>> you want to say and the posture of the group about this <smile>
>>>
>>> And yes, in the future HERA will produce RDF reports on the
>>> adaptability characteristics of a resource, I hope so.
>>>
>>> For the moment I'm working around the "accessibility" concept (but
>>> with and eye in the adaptability too). This means: conform with the
>>> WCAG or another guidelines.
>>>
>>> And I know the "dcterms:conformsTo", but I'm looking for a way to
>>> say: this
>>> resource don't conform and don't want conform, and don't must
>>> conform <smile>.
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Emmanuelle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> De: DCMI Accessibility Community [mailto:DC-
>>> [log in to unmask]] En nombre de Liddy Nevile Enviado el:
>>> miércoles, 07 de febrero de 2007 0:47
>>> Para: [log in to unmask]
>>> Asunto: Re: Not accessible or not adaptable.
>>>
>>> Emmanuelle
>>>
>>> As it is not ever clear that there is such a thing as an
>>> 'accessible'
>>> resource but that resources are accessible or otherwise to
>>> individual users, I would suggest that you write metadata on the
>>> resource, following the scheme we are developing for DC, and then
>>> individuals or later, computers, can match those resources to user's
>>> individual needs and preferences.
>>> The metadata we are working on makes objective statements about the
>>> characteristics of the resource, not claims about accessibility or
>>> otherwise. We describe this as metadata related to the adaptability
>>> of a resource but do not say yes or no, rather declare the
>>> characteristics. Of course, we note what makes a difference in line
>>> with the W3C guidelines and other work.
>>>
>>> For more info I suggest you see the DC page and then look at what is
>>> on the wiki where there is a lot more detail.
>>>
>>> http://dublincore.org/groups/access/
>>> http://dublincore.org/accessibilitywiki
>>>
>>> In fact, we would love to see Sidar adapt HERO to produce RDF
>>> reports on the adaptability characteristics of resources in the
>>> future.
>>>
>>> Liddy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/02/2007, at 7:26 AM, Emmanuelle Gutiérrez y Restrepo wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> This group was working in how define the adaptability's resource.
>>>> But I need
>>>> a way to declare / define that a resourse don't be and don't will
>>>> be accessible or adaptable.
>>>>
>>>> For example, we have some resource to teach accessibility that
>>>> don't conform the WCAG. These are bad practice examples, and must
>>>> be not accessibles.
>>>>
>>>> How can I preserve its that a review or classification as "bad"
>>>> resources?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry if I can explain it properly, my English is very bad, but I
>>>> hope that someone can understand me and explain it to the others.
>>>>
>>>> Any idea?
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>> Emmanuelle
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