What worries me is not any of us on this list, who know a good from a bad
poem, but any casual member of the public who may happen on the thing with
little or no poetic background to aid judgement. To them, it's in print, so
it must be good.
joanna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jennifer Compton" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: very bad poet
> It does seem Doug, that everyone who has commented on this matter, has
> agreed that it IS a very bad poem.
> There may be some on the list who quite like it and are lurking and not
> speaking their mind.
> But of those that have spoken - we have all agreed it is bad.
> So it is possible to say - that is a bad poem.
> But I suppose it has to be really bad. And in this, at least, Patrick has
> succeeded.
>
> cheers - jen
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]>
> Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and
> poetics <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: very bad poet
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:10:27 -0700
>
> Strange, all those readings, & he seems to have learned nothing, on the
> evidence of that piece, of what makes a poem work.
>
> Good on him for doing some work in the field, but being a good organizer
> does not a writer make.
>
> Doug
> On 29-Jan-07, at 5:07 PM, Max Richards wrote:
>
>>Quoting Jennifer Compton <[log in to unmask]>:
>>
>>>however - he has also been very gentle with me and witty and amusing on
>>>a
>>>few crazy nights in melbourne - the night the nz poet went for his
>>>throat -
>>>the night i got chucked out of Kevin Pearson's place for smacking some
>>>woman
>>>in her third eye - as i sat in the gutter he smiled and waved from the
>>>other
>>>side of the street - so you know i am a bit torn - which is why i just
>>>emailed him and kind of said - what the fuck?
>>>one must concude i suppose that although he is a human being and capable
>>>of
>>>human inter-reaction - he is also just a very bad poet
>>>
>>>and that is the saddest thing - to be really bad - realllllllllly bad
>>>
>> Here's P McC's self-description from Divan, the poetry e-mag:
>>
>>About the Poet
>>_______________________________________________________________________
>>_________
>>_________
>>
>>
>>Patrick McCauley was born in the city of Melbourne, Australia, in 1949.
>>He has
>>been reading, writing and performing poems since 1970. He has developed
>>over
>>twenty major poetry readings throughout Melbourne and country Victoria.
>>He has
>>attended at least one poetry reading per week for thirty years, and has
>>probably
>>heard in the vicinity of 30,000 poems read live by their authors. He has
>>been
>>developing The Big Read at the Celtic Club in central Melbourne for the
>>past
>>three years.
>>
>>Email: [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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