Interestingly the UKNIWM indexes these as BLESSED VILLAGES!
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of LEITH, Ian
Sent: 12 January 2007 10:37
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Thankful Villages
In order to confirm the existence of any physical memorials go to the
vast online database of the UK National Inventory of War Memorials
http://www.ukniwm.org.uk/ - if you put 'thankful village' into
'keywords' you get no less than 94 pages of results since this includes
the use of the phrase 'thankful village' in inscriptions.
Check UKNIWM - staff may well be able to advise further on the location
of memorials purely to villages where everybody returned. Since they are
rare all such memorials should be checked for Listed status. The
question why many war memorials remain curiously unprotected monuments
does not elicit quick answers - but as their 100th anniversary draws
near it will be asked more frequently.
Ian Leith
NMR
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nick Boldrini
Sent: 11 January 2007 12:50
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Subject: Re: Thankful Villages
Thankful villages are unlikley to have war memorials, as no one died.
They might have second World War Memorials though
best wishes
Nick Boldrini
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>>> Helen Wells <[log in to unmask]> 11/01/2007 12:43:47 >>>
Well Saxby, Leicestershire and Teigh, Rutland (both named in the list)
don't seem to have war memorials.
You can check here: http://www.ukniwm.org.uk/ !
I guess it's not complete though..?
Helen Wells
Assistant Planning Archaeologist/Historic Environment Record Officer
Leicestershire County Council
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of David Evans
Sent: 11 January 2007 12:36
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Subject: Re: Thankful Villages
Do these villages have war memorials?
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Talya Bagwell
Sent: 11 January 2007 12:26
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Subject: Re: Thankful Villages
Hi Roger,
I quite agree, especially when said place already has an AONB
type addition to the name sign! Fortunately far greater people than I
will debate that particular issue. Though perhaps provoking people
into
questioning the meaning is part of the point of it?
I was just wondering if there were any precedents elsewhere.
Thank you for all replies so far.
Talya
Talya Bagwell
Historic Environment Record Officer
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of THOMAS, Roger M
Sent: 11 January 2007 11:44
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Subject: Re: Thankful Villages
Hello Somerset!
I had never heard the term before, and certainly didn't know its
meaning!
It's a rather poignant concept. My only thought about putting it on
signs, if it's there without explanation, is that perhaps there are
others (quite a few?) who, like me, don't know what it signifies, and
won't be able to tell from a road sign. Is there a risk of it getting
muddled up in people's minds with those 'thank you for driving
carefully' signs? (That's not meant to be an entirely flippant
comment.)
I wonder if it's something that would be better commemorated (and I
think it should be) by a plaque somewhere in the village, rather than
on
a name sign. What do others think?
Roger
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Talya Bagwell
Sent: 11 January 2007 10:48
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Subject: Thankful Villages
Happy New Year Everyone, this is Somerset calling!
I have been contacted by a highways colleague who has been
asked
by a local councillor if the term 'Thankful Village' can be added to
a
local village place sign.
I'm sure you are all aware that a 'Thankful Village' is one that had
no
fatalities in the First World War (though whether this means people
born
in the village or just resident at the time I'm unsure) and we have
about five in Somerset.
I am curious to know whether this term has been commemorated on any
other recent place name signs, roadside stones etc elsewhere in the
country.
Also, with regards to charging, I'd like to suggest a dental/doctor
type
system of charging people for time wasted when they do not turn up for
HER appointments!
Regards,
Talya
Talya Bagwell
Historic Environment Record Officer
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www.somerset.gov.uk/heritage
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