I understood HESA data was taken from self declaration on the UCAS form
leading to all sorts of inaccuracies.  I'm told we can't "delete"
students who refuse to supply proof of dyslexia because it upsets the
conformation between HESA and UCAS data.

Any comments??

Dr John S Conway 
Disability Officer / Principal Lecturer in Soil Science / Chair,
Research Committee 
Royal Agricultural College, Cirencester, Glos GL7 6JS 
01285 652531 ext 2234  fax 01285 650219 
http://www.rac.ac.uk/index.php?_id=590 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of O'Callaghan, Loretto M J
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:56 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Number of Dyslexic students in HEI?

There are other dimensions too.  Overseas students who come from
Countries where Dyslexia is not necessarily recognised.  A quote
recently made to me was that we are sadly lacking in this Country of
Mandarin speaking Educational Psychologists for example - and I would
agree.    

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[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Edwards Robert (CeLL)
Sent: 09 January 2007 10:52
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Subject: Re: Number of Dyslexic students in HEI?

Indeed the HESA statistics are shown on the site Paddy and Claire quote;
but, forgive me if I am stating the obvious, it may be very easy to jump
to wildly inaccurate conclusions by using these figures inappropriately,
for lots of reasons:

	1) The HESA statistics are collated from figures supplied by
individual universities. There is no need for any students with dyslexia
to make themselves known to their universities if they do not want to do
so. The HESA figures may therefore be underestimates.

	2) As far as I am aware there is no check, by HESA or anyone
else, on whether different universities use comparable definitions of
dyslexia.

	3) My opinion is that different educational psychologists are
quite likely to come to different conclusions in assessing the same
student. There is no definition of dyslexia which can be used to give
predictable conclusions from assessments. Even if there were, it would
take a long time for it to be universally applied.

	4) I have no experience myself of dyslexia assessment in prisons
or through the probation service, but I suspect that criteria used in
those fields may be significantly different from criteria used in HEIs.
I have absolutely no evidence, but I wonder whether there is a confusion
between illiteracy and dyslexia in this area.

I'd be glad to receive comments on those points.

Best wishes,

Robert

Robert Edwards
Combined Studies Unit & Disability and Dyslexia Service/
   Uned Astudiaethau Cyfun a Sylfan a Gwasanaethau Anabledd a Dyslecsia
University of Glamorgan/Prifysgol Morgannwg
Pontypridd
Tel/Ffon: 01443 482981 & 654164
Fax/Ffacs: 01443 482170 & 654175
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support 
> staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Turner, Paddy
> Sent: 09 January 2007 10:25
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Number of Dyslexic students in HEI?
> 
> Hi Alexandra,
> Try this link to the  HESA stats
> http://www.hesa.ac.uk/holisdocs/pubinfo/stud.htm
> should give you most of what you need to know Cheers Paddy 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support 
> staff. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Spain, 
> Alexandra C
> Sent: 09 January 2007 10:18
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Number of Dyslexic students in HEI?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am currently undertaking an assignment looking at the 
> barriers faced by dyslexic individuals in institutionalised 
> settings, with a specific 'compare and contrast' between HEIs 
> and the Prison/Probation Service. 
> 
> Would anyone happen to know where I can access data, or if it 
> exists, that may show the prevalence of dyslexia within HEIs? 
> Or is anyone able to tell me the number of dyslexic students 
> within their specific HEI as compared to non-dyslexic students?
> 
> Please feel free to contact me off-list if you wish. Thanks 
> for your help.
> 
> Best  wishes,
> 
> Alexandra Spain
> 
> Disability Officer
> Disability & Dyslexia Support
> London South Bank University
> 
> Tel: 020 7815 6421
> Email: [log in to unmask] 
> 
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