Agreeing with Elaine & Mark. Engage him if you want, but on your own terms.
BTB, I had a trawl through his stuff on the web, and it left me
feeling slightly, well, nauseous. Isn't it enough that capitalism
triumphed? Must every last vestige of socialism be purged? It appears
so. I'm reminded of "The Handmaid's Tale".
And that reply just ... stank on so many levels.
Roger
On 1/28/07, Elaine Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Oh. Surprised just because his longer e-mail was so absurd. I still get
> surprised by adults making an ass of themselves in that kind of way--does he
> really feel justified in saying shit like that to you? Apparently so, but
> jeez. I think you are right, and Mark's advice seems appropriate--best not
> to engage.
>
>
> On 1/28/07 12:02 PM, "Jennifer Compton" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > why were u surprised?
> > he is such an idiot - alas - and wants me to debate him into some kind of
> > safety
> > no safety - weeping in the gutter of Melbourne -
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: Elaine Brown <[log in to unmask]>
> > Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and
> > poetics <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: lomg boring email from, very bad poet
> > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:41:22 -0500
> >
> > Wow! That's quite a response e-mail from him. I have to admit I'm
> > surprised; but he was obviously offended and many take such a tack to deal
> > with getting their feelings hurt.
> >
> > So, were you a "coward" or did you respond and debate? (Lordy.)
> >
> > Elaine
> >
> >
> > On 1/28/07 6:38 AM, "Jennifer Compton" <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> normally i would just delete and go out and dance
> >> but for yoir amusement\\Dear Jennifer,
> >>
> >> I"f you feel so strongly, that the poem is bad - then why don't you
> > outline
> >> your concerns in a letter to the editor of The Australian. I would be
> > very
> >> interested to read it.
> >>
> >> Of course, if your objections could amount to an essay, then send it to
> > Les
> >> Murray at Q - this would then allow me the opportunity to reply.
> >>
> >> However, if you are not prepared to say why you think it is a bad poem,
> > then
> >> you may be better off saying nothing.
> >>
> >> I suspect you are more aware of the price of gin in Rome than you are of
> > any
> >> poetry that is not trying to be another bunch of flowers.
> >>
> >> You probably cannot escape your own PC mucus and remain stuck in an ego
> >> constructed, self obsession and vanity - which, in the end, has
> > everything
> >> to do with your ideology, not my poetry.
> >>
> >> You don't know me well enough to write to me as you have. I have shown
> > your
> >> emails to several poets, who all disagree with your monosyllabic rather
> >> silly comments.
> >>
> >> I will note your rude impetuous emails for future reference.
> >>
> >> If you are not a coward, then you may actually take up my challenge to
> >> debate the poem.
> >>
> >> ...but I bet your a coward.
> >>
> >>
> >> P. "
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Compton"
> >> <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:53 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Did you write this poem?
> >>
> >>
> >> It hasn't upset me - it is just so bad! I really couldn't believe it
> > was
> >> you that wrote it.
> >> Any poet can write a bad poem - but it makes one wonder about the intent
> > of
> >> the person who publishes the poem.
> >> Can you tell me who commissioned you?
> >>
> >> regards - jen
> >>
> >>
> >> ----Original Message Follows----
> >> From: "patrick mccauley" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: "Jennifer Compton" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Subject: Re: Did you write this poem?
> >> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 05:05:46 +1100
> >>
> >> Dear Jennifer,
> >>
> >> Yes, I wrote this poem. It is the second of a suite I am writing around
> > the
> >> subject.
> >> I am sorry you found it 'incredibly' bad. If you had just found it 'bad'
> > I
> >> would have been more concerned.
> >> I am including a copy of 'How to be Australian (1)' which was published
> > in
> >> the Australian on Australia Day 2006. The next in the suite will be
> >> published on Australia Day 2008. I am also attaching an essay which picks
> > up
> >> on some of the concerns of the poem, so you will be able to be fully
> >> informed on the thinking which has clearly upset you.
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >>
> >> Patrick.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Compton"
> >> <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:05 AM
> >> Subject: Did you write this poem?
> >>
> >>
> >> http://theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21119511-601,00.html
> >>
> >> it is being discussed on poetry etc?
> >>
> >> it is an incredibly bad poem - i so hope it wasn't you
> >>
> >> cheers from jen
> >>
> >> ----Original Message Follows----
> >> From: "patrick mccauley" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: "Jennifer Compton" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Subject: Re: seeking Vivian Hopkirk
> >> Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:05:18 +1100
> >>
> >> Dear Jen,
> >>
> >> Yes he stayed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----Original Message Follows----
> >> From: Alison Croggon <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Reply-To: Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry
> > and
> >> poetics <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: How to be Orstrilian
> >> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:13:16 +1100
> >>
> >> Thanks Jen - a sort of masochistic curiosity prompts me to ask you to
> >> post the essay, though I think I know the thesis already -
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> A
> >>
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