Hi Pip,
Thanks for the quote below......
It expresses how I have felt on occasions reading
postings on this list....!!
I'm a bit long in the tooth now..... been in education
for a long time......and worked with action-research
methodology since 1976.....but sometimes reading some
postings I feel like I'm watching a ball game that I
should understand but find the conversation and the
action baffling!!
Thanks again.........
and here's to conversations that are accessible to
practitioners!!!
--- Pip/Bruce Ferguson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Mathias and Keith, Mutse atsi Paulus
>
> I had come across that Foucault quote too, as I used
> Foucault in my PhD.
> It's very concisely put. You and other educators on
> this list may also be
> interested in the quote below, from r.d.laing. It's
> worth bearing in mind
> when we work with people new to our particular
> discipline (I have recently
> felt EXACTLY like this when entering a new field! I
> printed the quote out
> and gave it to the person who was trying to 'induct'
> me!)
>
> Kind regards
>
> Pip
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Knots
>
> There is something I don't know
> that I am supposed to know.
> I don't know what it is I don't know
> and yet am supposed to know,
> and I feel I look stupid
> if I seem both not to know it
> and not know what it is I don't
> know.
> Therefore I pretend I know it.
> This is nerve-racking
> since I don't know what I must pretend to
> know.
> Therefore I pretend to know everything.
>
> I feel you know what I am supposed to know
> but you can't tell me what it is
> because you don't know that I don't know what it is.
>
> You may know what I don't know, but not
> that I don't know it,
> and I can't tell you. So you will have to tell me
> everything.
>
> r d laing (1972)
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: BERA Practitioner-Researcher
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Keith
> Kinsella
> Sent: Friday, 17 November 2006 8:58 p.m.
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: How do i~we recognise world leading
> educational
> practitioner-research?
>
>
>
> Hi Mathias/Paulus
>
>
>
> Thanks for the inquiry about the Foucault quote.
>
>
>
> I came across it in an interesting little book on
> Foucault by C G Prado
> titled Starting with Foucault, 2000, Westview Press.
> It appears on page 29
> in the context of what Prado calls 'the building
> blocks of archeology's
> epistemes and genealogy's disciplinary techniques'.
> It comes from Dreyfus
> and Rabinow, 1983.
>
>
>
> I've always liked the alliteration of the passage,
> and have made a point of
> getting some of my non-academic friends to memorise
> it so they could trot it
> out to impress over the dinner table when there wasa
> dull moment!
>
>
>
> Keith
>
>
Brian E. Wakeman
Education adviser
Dunstable
Beds
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