Copyright violation is a serious issue, and all too easy with the Internet.
Wikipedia take the matter seriously and have systems in place to discourage
it. A photographer whom I have met found that what he had put up on his
website had been plagiarised on some one else's in breach of his copyright.
He threatened proceedings and the offending website was taken down almost
immediately.
Conversely, the reproduction of an out of print pamphlet on a website may be
doing a public service in making the material available. The question for
an author must be how valuable his copyright is to him. If the infringer is
making money out of his Internet publication, he ought to be paying a
royalty. Nevertheless, much local history publishing is on the margins of
commercial viability; there may often be a case accepting what has been
done, but demanding an acknowledgement that the plagiarising website is
based on the published work. If the work is still in print, and suitable
links are provided, it might generate sales.
Peter King
49, Stourbridge Road,
Hagley,
Stourbridge
West Midlands
DY9 0QS
01562-720368
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-----Original Message-----
From: mining-history [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
Tony Oldham
Sent: 30 November 2006 14:31
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Bristol Coalfield
I always knew you could turn a website into a book.. Just copy and paste.
If you copy more than one website, it is then called research. [cf Caves and
Mines of Anglesey]. But turning a book into a website – well that has to be
a first :-)
Cheers - Tony Oldham
Duncavin
1 Riverside Mews
CARDIGAN
SA43 1DH
United Kingdom
http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/~arb/speleo/guides.html
http://www.showcaves.com
http://www.mike.munro.cwc.net/mining/tony_o/tonyo_hp.htm
http://www.showcaves.com/foreign/Big/F003-003.jpg
>From: david hardwick <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: "The mining-history list." <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Bristol Coalfield
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:16:28 -0000
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>This message is really for Keith Ramsey but others may be interested
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>Whilst doing a little web searching for BRISTOL COAL I came across the
>following pages on a site called "Memories of Bristol England Past and
>Present" (www.bristolhistory.com <http://www.bristolhistory.com/> )
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>http://weldgen.tripod.com/the-bristol-coal-industry/index.html
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>http://weldgen.tripod.com/the-bristol-coal-industry/id3.html
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>http://weldgen.tripod.com/the-bristol-coal-industry/id4.html
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>They appear to be a straight copy of Keith's excellent booklet on the
>Bristol Coal Industry. Apart from:-
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>Keith's introduction and overview of the Coalfield is missing
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>"Introduction" is Keith's Appendex 1,
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>"1854" is Keith's "The coalfield before 1854"
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>"scale" is Keith's "After 1854: The scale of the Industry"
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>The appendix on trade unions is missing as is any reference to sources
>notes
>etc
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>Instead of the table of amounts of coal worked from the 1871 commisioners'
>report there is just a statement "the results of their calculations are
>pure
>guess work." !!
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>Figure 1 is also omitted along with the reference to it and half the
>following sentence so that the next sentence starts .. City Boundaries (and
>makes no sense!!)
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>The rest of this chapter (including Victorian views and the decline of the
>industry are missing)
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>(oh, by the way, this comes up on my browser with a tag "Bristol Churches"
>!!!!)
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>I am assuming Keith doesn't know anything about this as I first came across
>this site where there is also a list of mining fatalities lifted from
>Doreen
>Lindegaards series of publications "killed in a coalpit" without any
>consent
>nor even an acknowledgement
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>Which goes to prove there is a lot of copied stuff out there and much of it
>(as in this case) is poorly done
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>Regards
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>David
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