I might just add a note here about early motor works-- even Dorchester,
Dorset had its own local car manufacturer called CHANNONS. From memory he
started as a carriage builder in High East Street and the works still exist
as a Majestic Wine Warehouse (O tempora,O mores....). There are photographs
of the building with carriages being hauled up from the street to a first
floor workshop, rather like the description of the Aston Martin works.
Channon also experimented with flying machines, testing them on Maiden
Castle... I do not know of any detailed study of the building or the history
of the industry. I understand it was not viable as a local industry being
too far from the sources of steel and other raw materials.
Christopher Sparey-Green
Canterbury Archaeological Trust
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
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Sent: 13 November 2006 14:14
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Subject: Re: Motor carriage works
Dear all
My colleague Jonathan Hurst has a further suggestion: " when trying to
track down the source of a much used [and abused] motoring quotation I
found that the librarians at the National Motor Museum at Beaulieu in
Hampshire extremely helpful. I would suggest that you try them.
J.Hurst"
Regards
John Preston
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It may be worth contacting the London Borough of Lambeth who I believe
govern Kennington. The Vauxhall Iron Works began to manufacture cars
there
in 1903-3. However, the Sunbeam Motor car was made in Wolverhampton
from
1898.
>>> [log in to unmask] 10/11/2006 17:36:35 >>>
Hi Brian.
Hope following helps, from a colleague whose expertise is in the
British Car Industry. He also suggests checking things with Gillian
Bardsley of the 'British Motor Heritage Trust' , based in Gaydon,
Warwickshire (check their web).
Regards,
Sarah-Jane
Colleague writes:
"Bits of Longbridge in Birmingham date from 1906 (if they are still
standing given the collapse of MG Rover last year) and were converted
from an 1880s printing works. Certainly factories in Coventry date from
the late 1890s (the original Humber, Hillman and Rover plants for
instance) and I can check if they are still standing. A couple of years
back Coventry Council produced a guided walk booklet showing them - I
have a copy at home somewhere and I'll dig it out. Copies were still
available from the Coventry Transport Museum when I was there in May.
Your correspondent should check: Paul Collins and Michael Stratton,
"British Car Factories from 1896: A Complete Historical, Geographical.
Architectural and Technological Survey (Veloce Publishing, 1993)". It's
quite a difficult book to get, but there is one available to consult at
Coventry Record Office, Mandela House, Bayley Lane, Coventry.
AC Cars of Thames Ditton date from the earliest days of the industry -
but I'm unsure about their factory. I'll have a think about Oxfordshire
over the weekend
On Merseyside the oldest would be the Vulcan Works in Southport - but
it wasn't purpose built and may have been demolished. "
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Giggins, Brian
Sent: 10 November 2006 12:37
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Subject: Motor carriage works
The Aston Martin works at Newport Pagnell in Milton Keynes includes a 3
storey brick building of 6 bays looking very much like a shoe factory
with large cast-iron 5 x 7 camber-headed windows. At ground floor, one
gable had a very larrge opening with a a second, slighly smaller,
opening above at 1st floor level. It was purpose-built in 1910 as part
of the motor carriage works of a company called Salmons & Sons.. Motor
manufacturers at that period seldom put bodies upon the cars they
produced bur arranged for the chassis they built to be delivered to
coach makers, such as Salmons, for the body of the car to be
constructed. This 1910 building had an internal rope lift to take the
chassis up to each of the three floors where the trades involved would
carryout their tasks. Needless to say the building is neither is listed
or in a Conservation Area. Local historians have claimed that this may
be the earliest surviving purpose-built motor carriage works in the
country. Are they right?? Would be very interest to know if you have
anything similar, but earlier, in your area.
Regards
Brian Giggins
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