one point might be that it promotes discussion.
Let's hear some Finnish, Kasper! I always love it when the stuff about oil
rigs and schools comes up at the start of DVD's in different languages. We
can always try Babel.
I wonder why posturing became an insult?
best
Randolph
----- Original Message -----
From: "kasper salonen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [POETRYETC] The Diamond Age
>I was going to apologise for being crude, but what with my glass house 'n'
> all you'd probably think it artificial, so what's the point.
>
> On 01/11/06, MJ Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Dear Kasper 1) I am not an academic 2) Translations of the German are
>> found in what I wrote, if you take the trouble to look. 3) As to the
>> word "posturing", you may recall a little proverb about glass houses -
>> which doesn't absolve me, of course: I plead guilty to thinking it a
>> good thing to present what was really written as well as the equivalent
>> in the vernacular. I had to omit the Chinese ideograms, unfortunately.
>> emjay
>>
>> kasper salonen wrote:
>>
>> > are we supposed to understand german MJ? what kind of academic
>> > posturing is
>> > that
>> >
>> > On 31/10/06, MJ Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Nothing will last forever, I hope, least of all words, words, words:
>> >> "Denn alles, was entsteht,/ Ist wert, dass es zugrunde geht."
>> >> (*Faust*)
>> >> Of course, Mephisto goes on: Drum besser wär's, dass nichts entstünde.
>> >> This appears to contradict Nietzsche's "Denn alle Lust will Ewigkeit,
>> >> will tiefe, tiefe Ewigkeit." But N. (who relativises the first part of
>> >> the Goethe quote in *Also sprach Zarathustra*) does not say the
>> >> objects
>> >> of pleasure/joy/desire must be eternal, it is the joy/desire itself
> that
>> >> requires eternity, perhaps as an aspect of itself? No finite object
>> >> can
>> >> ever be adequate to Lust. Mephisto, like Plato, is distrustful of
>> >> Becoming; the first part of his statement is true: all that comes into
>> >> existence is entitled to vanish in the abyss of oblivion; the second
>> >> part is only true for those who resent transience. Their secret
> nihilism
>> >> is to say with Meph that it were better that nothing ever came into
>> >> existence, if transience is true .
>> >>
>> >> Anxious words, unwilling to pass away, like streetscapes
>> >> and fountains, like visitors from outer space entrenched on some
>> >> border
>> >> fondling sunset glow before abruptly releasing a bolt of brocade
> beauty:
>> >> the void is no more than a flower! - Zhang Zao: "The Infinite"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> emjay
>> >> Roger Day wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > When manufactured diamond becomes cheap enough, I think it will be
>> >> > used as a storage medium. Diamond will last virtually forever, if
> kept
>> >> > correctly.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> M.J. Walker: http://walkoff.wordpress.com/
>> >>
>> >> Got to look at it at sunset when it's PINK
>> >> My guidebook said. Good advice about anything I suppose.
>> >>
>> >> Kenneth Koch
>> >>
>> >
>>
>> --
>>
>> M.J. Walker: http://walkoff.wordpress.com/
>>
>> Got to look at it at sunset when it's PINK
>> My guidebook said. Good advice about anything I suppose.
>>
>> Kenneth Koch
>>
>
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