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Re: Research and the Management of the Historic Environment

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Robert White <[log in to unmask]>

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Issues related to Historic Environment Records <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:03:11 +0100

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I think there is an ALGAO/CBA role to put pressure on funding bodies,
not just universities, to ensure that the results of all publicly funded
research are made (readily and promptly) accessible to the local HER.

When LHI was first set up there was an agreement with ALGAO that the LHI
project officers would consult the relevant LA archaeologist on proposed
schemes which gave us a chance to both learn about and have an input
into project proposals. The first Yorkshire LHI project officer attended
a regional ALGAO or SMR working party to discuss how this could operate
within each county and was very diligent about consulting, a process
which wasn't always (initially) followed by his successors.  However LHI
wasn't the only funding source for heritage related projects - I can
think of at least one HLF funded local body which has received at least
three rounds of funding, partly I think under the premise that it is
updating the SMR for its area (!) as well as researching local history
but has yet to provide the Yorkshire Dales HER with any data.

With the demise of LHI is there a need for a new agreement with HLF?  It
should not be too difficult/expensive to ensure that funding agreements
state that a copy of any report is deposited with the local HER (and the
CRO/county library local studies section?) 

The consultation draft of the management plan for the Yorkshire Dales
National Park contains the following objective "ensure that the results
of all publicly funded research projects enhance the Historic
Environment Record for the Yorkshire Dales" - all agencies working in
the National Park area will be asked to sign upto to the plan.  Arguably
any Minister of the Crown, statutory undertaker or person holding public
office should already be complying with this objective anyway under
S62(1) of the Environment Act 1995 which requires them to have regard to
national park purposes.  

Robert White
Senior Conservation Archaeologist 
Yorkshire Dales National Park Authority 

-----Original Message-----
From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dan Hull
Sent: 16 October 2006 12:16
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Research and the Management of the Historic Environment

Hi Nick - that's an interesting point. Is there anything the CBA can do
do you think to help put HERs and HE researchers in touch with each
other? Any suggestions welcome and we'll look into it.

Dan.

Head of Information & Communications
CBA, St Mary's House
66 Bootham, York YO30 7BZ
tel: +(44) (0)1904 671417
fax: +(44) (0)1904 671384  

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Nick Boldrini
Sent: 12 October 2006 16:13
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Research and the Management of the Historic Environment


Hello peeps

we have recently been having a bit of discussion in the office (more of
a minor rant really..) but thought it might be of interest.

We sometimes find it difficult to find out what Academic based
researchers are up to in our area even when we know they are researching
in our area. And there are probably a fair few we don't know about at
all. This sort of problem also applies to Local Societies sometimes.

Often, we know they are doing fieldwork, but don't always get included
in the information loop of what they have done and where. This might be
because they may not think we are interested, or just don't think to
inform us.

When we are included, it is also sometimes difficult to get data in a
way that makes entry into the HER easy.

All of this means it is difficult for us to manage the Historic
Environment as often we won't know something is there unless we get a
panicked phone call.

This is becoming more of a problem for FEP areas, as these are usually
in the rural bits researchers often seem to prefer. Without the data it
is difficult to advise appropriate management.

Do others have this problem? Is it a national one? Regional? Local? Is
it just us....

Anyone got any ideas how we can try and persuade people to think of
depositing information relating to their research directly with the HER
- rather than publishing it in a journal the HER doesn't subscribe to
and assuming we'll find out about it? I do look through the periodicals
we do get to see if we have missed anything, but often this might be
years after an event has happened, and we only subscribe to a limited
number anyway.

Hopefully the benefit we can "sell" is obvious - let us know and we can
protect this wonderful stuff you've found.

Is there an Archaeological Academics of HERForum we could target to try
and spread the word about HER's and the value of research work to
Heritage management?

any ideas/experience appreciated

best wishes

Nick Boldrini
Historic Environment Record Officer
Heritage Section
Countryside Service
North Yorkshire County Council
County Hall
Northallerton
DL7 8AH
Direct Dial (01609) 532331

Conserving North Yorkshire's heritage - encouraging sustainable access
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