Mathias
Your email made me smile
Thanks
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mathias Dekeyser" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: Mathias Dekeyser
> Bob: Sold !
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Interdisciplinary discussion on human embodiment
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob and Liz
> Sent: dinsdag 17 oktober 2006 18:58
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Mathias Dekeyser
>
> Hi Mathias,
>
> I can really understand that feeling about being buried under a load of
> documents!! Yes my book is all about my research, the paper was a
> distillation of the methods I employed. The book is a more discursive
> discussion about what the research means and how it is applicable to
> psychotherapy and the importance of acknowledging these embodied
> phenomena.
> I hope it is more accessible and readable than the paper, I spent a lot of
> time trying to make it so!!!
>
> Hope that clarifies matters
> Cheers
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mathias Dekeyser" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Mathias Dekeyser
>
>
>> Yep, that's the article I referred to !
>>
>> I am literally burried under documents about the body in therapy, so I
>> really would like to know if your book is about your research?
>>
>> Mathias
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Interdisciplinary discussion on human embodiment
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob and Liz
>> Sent: dinsdag 17 oktober 2006 8:51
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Mathias Dekeyser
>>
>> Hi Mathias,
>>
>> Thanks for this, it's great to know that my work gets read! Which article
>> are you referring to? I had the research aspect of my PhD published in
>> Psychotherapy Research:
>>
>> SHAW, R (2004) The Embodied Psychotherapist: an Exploration of the
>>
>> Therapists' Somatic Phenomena within the Therapeutic Encounter,
>> Psychotherapy Research, 14(3); 271-288
>>
>> and the reference for my book is
>>
>> SHAW, R (2003) The Embodied Psychotherapist: the Therapist's Body Story
>> HOVE
>> AND NEW YORK: BRUNNER-ROUTLEDGE
>>
>> However I have been writing about the body in therapy for about 10 years
>> so
>> you may be referring to another paper. If you have any questions about
>> my
>> method I would be delighted to discuss them.
>> Best wishes
>> Bob
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mathias Dekeyser" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: Re: Mathias Dekeyser
>>
>>
>> O, so "Bob" is actually Robert Shaw !
>>
>> I have never read your book, but I use your Psychotherapy article for my
>> own
>> PhD and training purposes. Good work ... You are the only person that I
>> know
>> of who tried to examine this issue systematically with therapists in a
>> qualitative way. And was able to get it published.
>>
>> Your text left me with many questions about your method. Will they be
>> answered when I read the book?
>>
>> Mathias
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Interdisciplinary discussion on human embodiment
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob and Liz
>> Sent: maandag 16 oktober 2006 9:17
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [BGSpam]Re: Mathias Dekeyser
>>
>>
>> Hi Tasha,
>>
>> I'm interested that you work as a counsellor and your comments on
>> focussing.
>>
>> I work as an psychotherapist and originally trained as an osteopath. My
>> PhD
>>
>> was on embodiment in the psychotherapeutic relationship and I think
>> focussing is one way of looking at this aspect of therapy. My interest is
>> along the lines of why do we feel such strong physical feelings whilst
>> doing
>>
>> therapy and now I think neuroscience is starting to provide some
>> compelling
>> evidence, eg mirror neurones etc. As for literature as the risk of
>> self-publicity, if you're interested my PhD was the basis of my book 'The
>> Embodied Psychotherapist' published by Brunner-Routledge. Cheers Bob
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Natasha Barlow" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:59 PM
>> Subject: [BGSpam]Re: Mathias Dekeyser
>>
>>
>>> 'Hi, I guess I'd question whether Gendlin's work emerged out of
>>> psychoanalysis - more out of Rogerian and humanistic psychotherapy -
>>> if we're going to say it emerged from a pyschotherapeutic practice at
>>> all.'
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, my understanding is that gendlin was practciing Rogerian
>>> counselling,
>>> and observed people in therapy, noticing that some people stop and pause
>>> and appear to check 'inwardly' wio some sense, as if they are testing
>>> out
>>> ways of expressing how things are, or checking on how well what the
>>> therpapist says 'fits'.
>>> Rogers work on reflecting feeling has a resonance with this too, for me
>>> anywaqy, when he talks about teaching therapists to think in temrs of
>>> 'testing understandings' rather than 'reflecting feeling', in order to
>>> foster, not an intent to reflect but rather a 'questioning desire'. He
>>> describres the unspoken quesion as 'is this the way it is in you?'
>>> Anyway, Gendlin noticed some clients doing this, and that those cleints
>>> did well in therapy- he recorded hours on therapy and tried to
>>> demonstrate
>>
>>> that you could predict good outcome on the basis of whether or not the
>>> client was focusing inwardly in this way.
>>> I don't know how this kind of account relates to theoretcial ideas about
>>> embodiment.
>>>
>>> Does this fit with others understanbdings on this list?
>>>
>>> I'm Tasha by the way, and I work as a counsellor, and have an
>>> interest in
>>> neuroscience and philosophy. I jopined this liost because of my interest
>>> in focusing, and losely embodied ways of thinking about the mental.But
>>> not
>>
>>> v knowledgable about the embodiment literature at all.
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Franc Chamberlain" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 3:14 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Mathias Dekeyser
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, I guess I'd question whether Gendlin's work emerged out of
>>>> psychoanalysis - more out of Rogerian and humanistic psychotherapy -
>>>> if we're going to say it emerged from a pyschotherapeutic practice at
>>>> all.
>>>>
>>>> Ae you defing psychoanalysis very loosely here? Or do you have a
>>>> specific way in which you think Gendlin't work emerges out of
>>>> psychoanalysis?
>>>>
>>>> I'd say Csordas and Gendlin's appraoches both emerge out of
>>>> post-Merleau-Ponty phenomenology. There's been an interesting
>>>> discussion on the Focusing Institute discussion list about Gendlin's
>>>> relationship to the Chicago school and the work of Richard McKeon in
>>>> particular.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> will say more about myself later
>>>>
>>>> Franc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13/10/06, Adrian Harris <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mathias wrote:
>>>>> >My theoretical focus is on
>>>>> >psychological contact, awareness styles and embodied empathy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you use Csordas? I've found his work on embodied states? I've
>>>>> also
>>>>> found
>>>>> Gendlin's notion of the 'felt sense' very useful, and that emerged
>>>>> from
>>>>> psychoanlysis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>> Adrian
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