Don't ask for too much, Doug. I mean, if you knew all those
things for sure . . . well, where would you be?
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On Sep 14, 2006, at 1:08 PM, Douglas Barbour wrote:
> I take your point, Roger, & Jon's too, but note I said ' if it does
> so, does it do so so slowly' that its effect isn't macro I guess
> but micro. I know that thing I have read have changed me (my mind,
> my feelings, the way I see the world), but I'm not so sure about
> how those changes have altered my politics, & even less sure how
> such changes have had an immediate effect in the political realm.
>
> As Mark suggested, it's more like that they do in other countries
> where to speak out is to make oneself a target (which, really,
> hasn't been the case for poets in the US, UK, Canada or Australia,
> etc, for quite some time now; because no one in power reads poetry!).
>
> Doug
> On 14-Sep-06, at 10:19 AM, Roger Day wrote:
>
>> Poetry, and art, must have some effect: those same presidents and
>> generals (and bishops) have spent an awful lot of time banning
>> books[1], so they must fear something. In the UK, up until the 60's,
>> plays had to go before the Lord Chamberlain to be censored if needed.
>> This had been going on since Elizabethan times.
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