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--- Caroline Tully <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> >>question was basically settled when an elderly
> neo-pagan stated 'Magicians
> >>talk the walk, but shamen walk the talk. You
> don't see shamen talking
> >>about techniques'.<<
>
> Hmmm. Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions here, but
> this just sounds like the
> 'elderly neo-pagan' defining himself rather than
> ceremonial magicians. And
> it sounds disparaging to ceremonial magicians - like
> they are all 'fake' and
> shamans are 'real'? I am a member of a ceremonial
> magick lodge (O.T.O.) and
> we hardly ever actually 'talk' about the techniques
> we do, we mostly just do
> them. In fact people really don't seem that
> interested in talking about the
> techniques at all, in this group, or previous
> incarnations of O.T.O I've
> been involved with. I don't know what people are
> doing or thinking when they
> are alone, but in the group its all about
> performance/participation. I also
> find that in Neo-Pagan groups I've been involved in
> everybody just wants to
> do ritual asap. I actually like analysing the hell
> out of magickal
> techniques... but often don't get anyone to join me
> in that exersise - its
> all 'get up and do'.
>
> ~Caroline.
>
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