The "elderly pagan" mentioned was talking about (neo-)shamans practising in
the UK as far as I could make out.
"Walking the talk" would seem to me to include not charging for training -
though different systems may have different ethics.
Among Wiccans, it is generally considered unethical (and remember that
one's ethical behaviour, or lack of it, has magical reverberations in the
magical world-view) to charge for training.
Yvonne
--On 16 August 2006 11:34 +0100 sarah cantelo <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Yes! , but we're talking about what's available in the marketplace here,
> surely, as opposed to the 'real thing'?
>
> cheers
> sarah
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne Aburrow" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Definitions of Magic
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> I'd say the difference between magic and shamanism is that you add another
> couple of zeroes onto the price. About ten years ago, I heard of a
> shamanism weekend costing 600 pounds.
>
> Training in Wiccan covens is free (or people may charge for candles &
> incense, or ask people to bring them). I don't know about magical lodges,
> but I haven't heard of them charging either.
>
> --On 15 August 2006 21:43 +0100 DAVE EVANS <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "You don't see shamen talking about techniques"
>>
>> that's not exactly conclusive evidence...... when there are numerous
>> books, magazine articles and lectures available about shamanism, and
>> several shamanic residential training places in the UK alone, offering
>> all manner of courses, and if one goes to most New Age -type events there
>> will often be wall-to-wall people claiming to be shamans.... personally i
>> find it much harder to find magicians to talk to than shamans
>>
>> dave e
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> Yvonne
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