Thank you Mogg, I'll look into that.
~Matt
On 27-Jun-06, at 2:50 PM, Mogg Morgan wrote:
> Dear Friends
>
> Many years ago Mike Magee suggested in a journal called 'Sothis' -
> that the
> tantrik 'Shri Yantra' may have played a role in the directional
> symbolism
> used by the GD - there is some similarity between this glyph and 'the
> rose
> cross lamen' - given that several other colour symbols in the GD came
> from
> tantrik sources its a theory that might be worth considering.
>
> bb/93
>
> mogg
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Jeffrey S.
> Kupperman
> Sent: 27 June 2006 02:57
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Sources for GD elemental
> attributions
>
>
> I admit that I have issues with some of Kaplan's conclusions and
> interpretations, which are sometimes influenced through his own
> religious lens and occasionally are not at all supported by the text.
> However, I cannot really comment on the translation itself as I haven't
> had to read Hebrew since I was 13. However in this case I was referring
> specifically to a chart on pg. 46, which looks at sefirot to direction
> attributions from the Ari, the Raavad, Isaac the Blind and the Ramak,
> with relevant citations. It is perhaps interesting to note that all
> four
> are different and none of them match the GD's version, which is mapped
> into a room.
>
> peace
> -j
>
> Khem Caigan wrote:
>> Jeffrey doth schriebble:
>>>
>> <SNIPS>
>>> For Jewish correspondences I would recommend taking a look at
>>> Aryeh Kaplan's translation of the Sefer Yetzirah. In the case
>>> of the GD, I believe the attributions of the lower sefirot,
>>> from Malkhut to Tiferet, are discussed in the Z1 paper, vol 6
>>> of the Complete GD, begining on page 56 of my edition, under
>>> "The Symbolism of the Temple"
>> <SNIPS>
>>
>> You might want to consider using some other edition
>> of the *Sefer Yetzirah* for purposes of citation -
>> apparently our edition doesn't sit well with some
>> academics.
>>
>> Scholem even went so far as to call our edition of
>> the *Bahir* "worthless".
>>
>> *Notes on Editions of Sefer Yetzirah in English*
>> http://tinyurl.com/kqpaw
>>
>> While we are on the subject of elemental attributions,
>> you might want to look at my < strangely formatted >
>> essay on the subject over on WitchVox:
>>
>> Elemental and Astrological Magic
>> http://tinyurl.com/o33d6
>>
>> And here is a link to the diagram which ought to have
>> appeared in that essay instead of that clot of mangled
>> ASCII:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/mzyhn
>>
>> See also:
>>
>> Golden Dawn Research Center
>> - The Four Elements in the Western Tradition
>> http://tinyurl.com/pfn2g
>>
>> TEMPERAMENT
>> http://tinyurl.com/n53hy
>>
>> The Eightfold Year
>> and the Stages of Life
>> http://tinyurl.com/sxjbn
>>
>> Cors in Manu Domine,
>>
>>
>> ~ Khem Caigan
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>
>> " And what if all of animated nature
>> Be but organic harps diversely fram'd,
>> That tremble into thought, as o'er them sweeps
>> Plastic and vast one intellectual breeze,
>> At once the Soul of each and God of all? "
>>
>> ~ Coleridge
>>
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