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Re: new work from W3C

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Lisa Seeman <[log in to unmask]>

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DCMI Accessibility Group <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 19 May 2006 08:12:02 +0200

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I think that would be great

Thanks Andy


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andy Heath" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: new work from W3C


> Lisa,
> 
> I posted on some other lists that this conversation
> was taking place but people may not make the effort
> if they aren't on DC-ACC.  Do you mind if I post your
> points, attributed to you, on other lists where there
> are people that may wish to respond to the issues ?
> 
> andy heath
> 
>> Lisa
>> thanks for pointing out those as the potential problems - others  might 
>> be interested in these issues. I suggest that comments are  posted to 
>> the W3C comments list but welcome discussion on this list  as WCAG is 
>> very relevant to the work we do in developing an  Application Profile 
>> for accessibility.
>> 
>> Liddy
>> 
>> On 18/05/2006, at 8:35 PM, Lisa Seeman wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> Hi Liddy, I don't think WCAG 2.0 will make content as accessible as  
>>> one can. I have three basic concerns.
>>>
>>> 1. There is no game plan for real inclusion of people with learning  
>>> disabilities. The guidelines sound right, but the success criteria  
>>> lack the substance to do much good.  (Try using their techniques  
>>> document and imagine you have a naming disability and can not cross  
>>> reference between success criteria numbers and what each one  
>>> means.... They follow their own guidelines but it doesn't do it).  As 
>>> such they need to lose the claim (at least in the short term)  that 
>>> following WCAG will give accessibility to people with Learning  
>>> Disabilities.
>>>
>>> 2. What makes sites inoperable by assistive technology has not been  
>>> adequately  covered.  I think AJAX sites that are unusable need to  be 
>>> tested against the success criteria to see if conforming to  success 
>>> criteria result in an accessible application. In my  experience some 
>>> issues such as encapsulation of the functions and  behaviors of each 
>>> element is essential. Issues like a correct  element always having 
>>> focus etc,  also fundamentally brakes this  type of application. (They 
>>> have touched on it with  1.3.1  Information and relationships conveyed 
>>> through presentation can be  programmatically determined, ...and 
>>> others but I don't think they  are requiring what is needed)
>>>
>>> 3, I am not sure if language tag issues have been understood, Level  
>>> two requirements may be hugely burdensome and I think not hugely  
>>> necessary on non English sites.
>>>
>>> It is implied above but it does not seem that WCAG has tested that  
>>> conformance results in accessibility. I think the direction is good  
>>> but, what is needed is a full range of testing in new and upcoming  
>>> web scenarios as well as for a full range access related issues.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>> Lisa
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liddy Nevile"  
>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 6:39 AM
>>> Subject: new work from W3C
>>>
>>>
>>>> W3C have their new version of the Web Content Guidelines (Version   
>>>> 2.0) out for public comment - so it might be a good time to take  a  
>>>> look. See http://www.w3.org/2006/03/dial-pressrelease The  closing  
>>>> date for comments is May 31 - see http://www.w3.org/WAI/ 
>>>> WCAG20/comments/
>>>>
>>>> There has been some concern about the provision for people with   
>>>> cognitive disabilities. Perhaps if you are an expert in this  field,  
>>>> you could comment?
>>>>
>>>> W3C also has a new language being developed which should be of   
>>>> particular interest to people who care about the adaptability of   
>>>> resources - see http://www.w3.org/2006/03/dial-pressrelease
>>>>
>>>> Liddy
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> andy
> ___________________
> Andy Heath
> http://axelrod.plus.com
>

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