Tim Stevens wrote:
>>>If you have an HNcoCA there is no *direct* transfer between N and CA.
>>>The transfer is indirect, in two steps, via the CO. With the current model
>>>there is no 'TransferType' to represent that. The obvious solution is to
>>>not put in an ExpTransfer. Alternatively one could change the model, but
>>>what TransferType should you use for what might be arbitrary multiply
>>>relaued transfers?
>>>
>>>Let us see what Tim says,
>>>
>>>
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>I would prefer for things to remain as they are. It looks that everything
>really is set up correctly for the HNcoCA, or at least as I intended
>even if people don't agree.
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no I don't disagree I am just trying to understand...
>I will only ever set up the ExpTransfers that are commonly useful for
>Analysis, so that I don't have to delve into the prototypes. The current
>ExpTransferType enumeration is fine for me and I don't want to add to the
>amount of curation and checking unless there is a strong reason.
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Thats fair enough analysis is your program, and I can undertand you have
plenty on your plate
>If more details are required then it is always available in the
>NmrExpPrototype package.
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Thats the problem its yet another huge and complex package to
understand, I have enough on my plate with nmr
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>> 1. again this wan't clear from the documentation. I assumed that
>>exptransfers composed a net which included all dimensions, with the
>>assumption that this was the way to workout how you expDimd's were
>>connected together. Also, how do you use this facility if arbbitary
>>transfers are missing?
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>Personally I don't believe there is much of a problem with the
>documentation. ExpTransfer is optional and is not described as being a
>complete network. The only thing I would possibly add is a mention of the
>prototype package.
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Ok that fair enough but begs some questions
1. how do I know it is optional?
2. true it is not described as being a complete network but neither is
is described as not being a complete network. Ceertainly this semi naive
user though it appeared to be
>> 2. so I guess the more useful question might be how do I go about
>>what I am trying to do. I was using the expTransfers to work out which
>>dims are connected in paticular manners (one bond transfer, multibond
>>transfer, through space)
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>> 3. the answer of what transferType includes the possibilities:
>> a. have an array of strings instead of a string (in some cases
>>you might need higher level structures, I can't think of exact cases but
>>I am sure it is possible to have different means of tranfer going on at
>>the same time in terms of the spin physics)
>> b. a relayed type which would just cover j based connections
>>(this would cover a mutitude of sins, but maybe too wide)
>> c. a set of string combinations from transfer types as a string
>>(ugly, and you have to hope you don't have to define a combinatorial set
>>of poissibilities).
>>
>>
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>The NmrExpPrototype package is where you should be looking for
>this. It is quite comprehensive...
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>T.
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